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Old 01-23-2007, 05:10 AM
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Another friendof mine puts about a gallon of gasoline in his mbz for every fill up in the winter months only.One gallon of gas and 17 of diesel for every fill up.It gets mixed in pretty well and the car has never had a single problem in his 23 years of hard driving the thing.It is now in the neighborhodd of 290,000 miles and stil running strong.With this , he doesn't even need to plug it in even on the coldest nights.Can't run it any other time of year except for cold winter , because car will just plain run too hot .

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Old 01-23-2007, 05:19 AM
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Is it true these thigs will run well off of kerosine? I was also told it will,but never had the guts,to try it w/my baby.My cars have never run on anythig except diesel,as long as I've had them,so I'm just trying to learn more about these other fuels,options...
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:43 AM
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Is it true these thigs will run well off of kerosine? I was also told it will,but never had the guts,to try it w/my baby.My cars have never run on anythig except diesel,as long as I've had them,so I'm just trying to learn more about these other fuels,options...
Plenty of info if you search for 'kerosene' or 'rug' (regular unleaded gasoline).
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:49 AM
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Is it true these thigs will run well off of kerosine? I was also told it will,but never had the guts,to try it w/my baby.My cars have never run on anythig except diesel,as long as I've had them,so I'm just trying to learn more about these other fuels,options...
The owner's manual advises mixing kerosene with diesel to avoid gelling in colder climates.

You can run it on 100% Kero. It'll be fine........although it will lose about 25% of it's power and economy because of the lower BTU value of the fuel.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:05 AM
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Ether is bad!

I have used a lot of ether on old diesels over the years. On my 2 cycle Detroits, a little shot of ether and they were up and running. But a couple of weeks ago when my glo plugs failed, and it went from a good start to a hard start to a no start in about 10 days, I did experiment with ether. First, I had the glo plugs disconnected and then I sprayed in a very short shot while cranking the 617. It wasn't a two second shot either - it was as short as I could make it, very short. Yet when that little puff of ether was stuffed into those cylinders, the racket and sound was unbelievable. It did start the engine, but I found it very difficult to keep it going for about 30 seconds. This was at about 25 degrees inside the garage. I also spent considerable time trying to start it with WD40. It cranked better and faster, but I had no sucess at all in getting it to fire up on WD40. None. So my conclusion is, if you like your 617 engine, don't use ether. Why I didn't have any sucess with WD40 is a surprise to me. I read many posts saying it works great.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:17 AM
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I have ethered my SD a few times when I needed it to start. Once or twice I forgot to plug in and needed to get to class, and class is more valuable than a $500 car so I don't give a crap I'll load a whole can into the intake if I have to!

Anyway never had an issue, I usualy remove the GP strip fuse as well.

I wouldn't use it all the time, but if you are stuck in a parking lot and the car won't start do what you have to do.
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:34 AM
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The owner's manual advises mixing kerosene with diesel to avoid gelling in colder climates.

You can run it on 100% Kero. It'll be fine........although it will lose about 25% of it's power and economy because of the lower BTU value of the fuel.
I spoke with a man up in Maine today and we got on the subject of cars, I mentioned I had a few Mercedes so he said he keeps seeing an old lady in a 100D around there. I thought the first diesel Mercedes sent to NA was the 180D? anyhow he said she runs it on Kerosene all the time as they sell it at a gas station there, must be a quaint country place, he has seen her fill up a couple of times and he was shocked when he saw he using Kero so he went over to check it out and she told him the car was a grey market car and Mercedes recommended Kerosene from the get-go. I suppose they didn't have many diesel pumps back then.

I told him if she wanted to sell it give me a call! heck I can find room for another Benz I suppose, especially a 1948 100D (if it exists!)
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:37 AM
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I have used a lot of ether on old diesels over the years. On my 2 cycle Detroits, a little shot of ether and they were up and running. But a couple of weeks ago when my glo plugs failed, and it went from a good start to a hard start to a no start in about 10 days, I did experiment with ether. First, I had the glo plugs disconnected and then I sprayed in a very short shot while cranking the 617. It wasn't a two second shot either - it was as short as I could make it, very short. Yet when that little puff of ether was stuffed into those cylinders, the racket and sound was unbelievable. It did start the engine, but I found it very difficult to keep it going for about 30 seconds. This was at about 25 degrees inside the garage. I also spent considerable time trying to start it with WD40. It cranked better and faster, but I had no sucess at all in getting it to fire up on WD40. None. So my conclusion is, if you like your 617 engine, don't use ether. Why I didn't have any sucess with WD40 is a surprise to me. I read many posts saying it works great.
For WD40 you have to almost squirt it right into the intake manifold, at least we took the air cleaner off when we used it at the shop and put it directly in, not thru an aircleaner.
No one mentioned this before on the thread but Ether is very bad for your liver or something, not at all healthy to a person's body! Take car with that stuff if you use it a lot try not to breath much of it. It was discontinued as a anasthesia long ago for that reason
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:50 AM
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I suspect that the effectiveness of WD-40 is related to the fact that it uses propane as a propellant. A shot of propane might be equally effective. Anyone tried it?
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:02 AM
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I spoke with a man up in Maine today and we got on the subject of cars, I mentioned I had a few Mercedes so he said he keeps seeing an old lady in a 100D around there.

especially a 1948 100D (if it exists!)
A 100D is a van.

Pictured is a 1992 100D

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I spoke with a man up in Maine today and we got on the subject of cars, I mentioned I had a few Mercedes so he said he keeps seeing an old lady in a 100D around there. I thought the first diesel Mercedes sent to NA was the 180D? anyhow he said she runs it on Kerosene all the time as they sell it at a gas station there, must be a quaint country place, he has seen her fill up a couple of times and he was shocked when he saw he using Kero so he went over to check it out and she told him the car was a grey market car and Mercedes recommended Kerosene from the get-go. I suppose they didn't have many diesel pumps back then.

I told him if she wanted to sell it give me a call! heck I can find room for another Benz I suppose, especially a 1948 100D (if it exists!)
Yikes! At 25% less power output and $4/gal. for kerosene, those are expensive operating costs.
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:59 PM
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My 602 and 603 manuals specify up to 50% kerosene with #2 diesel, never more than 50% kerosene, and not to mix kerosene with #1 (winter) diesel.
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:02 PM
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I would most definitely remove the glow plug strip fuse if I were going to use ether.

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Old 02-23-2007, 04:57 PM
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A 100D is a van.

Pictured is a 1992 100D

Looks like an early Sprinter to me. What engine did it have? 60x?
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Old 02-24-2007, 12:06 AM
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Looks like an early Sprinter to me. What engine did it have? 60x?
I know some came with the 2.9L direct injection version of the OM602.

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