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Rebe 02-04-2007 07:44 PM

78 300D vs. late model 240D
 
I have a question about a 78 MB 300D that was listed for 10K on ebay. My question is will that 78 MB 300D non-aspirated diesel blow away a very latest model 240D from the line all the way up to top end flow? Like at least a 83's model 240D without the horsepower boost modifications done to it.

ForcedInduction 02-04-2007 08:08 PM

Yes.

Don't waste $10,000 on a 29 year old car.

Stevo 02-04-2007 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebe (Post 1409874)
I have a question about a 78 MB 300D that was listed for 10K on ebay. My question is will that 78 MB 300D non-aspirated diesel blow away a very latest model 240D from the line all the way up to top end flow? Like at least a 83's model 240D without the horsepower boost modifications done to it.

What "horsepower boost modifications" ?

TheDon 02-04-2007 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebe (Post 1409874)
I have a question about a 78 MB 300D that was listed for 10K on ebay. My question is will that 78 MB 300D non-aspirated diesel blow away a very latest model 240D from the line all the way up to top end flow? Like at least a 83's model 240D without the horsepower boost modifications done to it.

That would be one very slow and pathetic race.....

kerry 02-04-2007 09:15 PM

If the 300d was non-aspirated I think the 240d would beat it under any conditions since the 300d couldn't run. :D

justinperkins 02-04-2007 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry edwards (Post 1409931)
If the 300d was non-aspirated I think the 240d would beat it under any conditions since the 300d couldn't run. :D

had to re-read the original post to get that one, nice :D

rebe, it's Naturally Aspirated

JimmyL 02-04-2007 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry edwards (Post 1409931)
If the 300d was non-aspirated I think the 240d would beat it under any conditions since the 300d couldn't run. :D

Early candidate for line of the evening......
I like your work! :D

Oh, and btw, don't waste your time worrying about the speed difference between two cars that don't have enough to worry about. Not the reason we buy these cars....:rolleyes:

Rebe 02-04-2007 11:28 PM

I guess I wasn't too clear on the NA part of the question. In essence I meant NTC'ed. Oh! and on the don't worry about the speed, that is not why you buy them. I would like to know then why you do buy them?? Speed and performance has always been the trigger for any kind of automotive selling criteria.

yellit 02-05-2007 12:03 AM

Normally or Non Aspirated Diesels
 
That is a good question...I think we mainly buy them to work on and look forward to our next small improvement so we can discuss it on these forums...
Lots of reasons to own one... but performance is way down the list for an old Benz dieselhead....I think it is just the whole car that is interesting....kind of like ownership of working antique machines and curiosities....The multi-fuel aspect of the IDI diesels is always fun too....Because they will run on many liquid fuels, do not need computers or OBDII systems....These autos may come in handy in a pinch....

JimmyL 02-05-2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebe (Post 1410055)
Oh! and on the don't worry about the speed, that is not why you buy them. I would like to know then why you do buy them?? Speed and performance has always been the trigger for any kind of automotive selling criteria.


If you say so.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I withdraw to pursue other threads...........

justinperkins 02-05-2007 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebe (Post 1410055)
I guess I wasn't too clear on the NA part of the question. In essence I meant NTC'ed. Oh! and on the don't worry about the speed, that is not why you buy them. I would like to know then why you do buy them?? Speed and performance has always been the trigger for any kind of automotive selling criteria.

Nobody buys an old diesel with speed and performance in mind.

Rashakor 02-05-2007 10:59 AM

Now that we put away the performance factor away ( i think for that matter than a 1st edition 300D and a late 240D are almost equivalent) we can start talking about the rest of the car...

1976-1980 300D
Horse-hair seats
Chrysler auto-climate
1stgen rust-proofing or no rust-proofing + galvanization only on structural members
pneumatic cruise control
EGR-free
Chrome-tail lights

240D 1982-83 (and 84-85 euro models)
Synthetic fiber seats
MANUAL climate control
2nd gen rust-proofing + Galvalization of bottom coque
electronic cruise control
EGR

Except for the EGR (that can be removed or disabled) in the 240D, pretty much every thing else is superior in the late 240D.

sixto 02-05-2007 12:48 PM

300D AT vs 240D AT or MT?

Why is a person for whom speed and performance are the criteria even thinking about 25 year old Diesels? I always thought it was about number of cup holders :)

Sixto
93 300SD 3.0

darrell.butler 02-05-2007 01:13 PM

Was 78 the first year for the 300D. I once owned a 77 240 and love it and now I have 78 300D which I love just the same. I concur with other members of the forum that we don't buy these cars for high speed/performance but for the love and duribility of MB DIESEL.. I will say that my 78 300D NA (161k) has as much get-up and go as my 87 300D Turbo(321k).

justinperkins 02-05-2007 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by darrell.butler (Post 1410503)
Was 78 the first year for the 300D. I once owned a 77 240 and love it and now I have 78 300D which I love just the same. I concur with other members of the forum that we don't buy these cars for high speed/performance but for the love and duribility of MB DIESEL.. I will say that my 78 300D NA (161k) has as much get-up and go as my 87 300D Turbo(321k).

There is something wrong with your 87 :D


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