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Nope, sorry, it's not there. The best I can do is take pictures of my own. I'll be working on the car past midnight. I'll post them here first thing in the morning... and,
hopefully, we'll be able to solve this very irritating mystery of the brake component that shouldn't be there... Thanks so much... Logging off now. Rino
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If BOTH rear wheels are locked, or nearly locked, the odds of BOTH calipers freezing up at the same time are nil. What you may very well have is a bad brake hose or other hydraulic problem that is trapping the pressure into the calipers.
BEFORE removing the calipers, go to the master cylinder and crack open the line that goes to the rear brakes. Wear glasses when you do this and be prepared to clean up a mess because brake fluid will attack paint. If there is lots of trapped pressure there while there is no pedal pressure, then something is trapping the pressure. A flaky brake hose can do this, but that will be only on one side. Have the brakes worn down metal to metal on the rear? Hope this helps, |
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glued to the tube
The suspense is killing me Sorry , I just had Knee surgery and this thread is consuming my existence. Waiting patiently for the next reply
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Ok ok, I can't figure out what the heck he's looking at. Hopefully he will take some pictures and post them.
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OK, I took pictures of the unidentified component, and here they are:
In 1.jpg you can see the component located at the rear right wheel, pointed out by the red arrow. 2.jpg is a close-up of the same. This item somehow got disconnected from the balljoint to which it was attached, which in the two pictures is hidden by the rotor. In 3.jpg you can see the same item at the rear left wheel site, indicated by the two red arrows, which in this case is attached at both points, though the connection is visibly damaged at the lower joint. What the heck is this (brake) component, which doesn't show in any auto-part catalog that I have come across (and I've looked at many...)? The horrible noise that started two days ago comes from the right wheel, where this component is disconnected (I have no idea how long it has been disconnected). In my car's rear brake setup there are two sets of hydraulic hoses (and no electric sensor wires), one going to the caliper on each side, and the other connected to the rotor on each side through this unidentified connecting link. This item doe not have a hole going through it, so it is not meant to convey any fluid to the lower juncture... At first I thought that perhaps it had to do with the parking brake. So, to test, I put the parking brake on with the rear wheels up in the air and the transmission gears in neutral, and BOTH rear wheels were blocked (by the parking brake action). Upon releasing the parking brake, both wheels were relatively freed (something on both rear sides is impeding their spinning freely, like if the brakes - either the disc pads or the parking brake - are dragging). Therefore, it seems to me that this thing is not part of the parking brake, am I correct in assuming this? By the way, it takes five clicks for the parking brake pedal to travel all the way down, so I would exclude that the adjusting mechanism is too tight... Please let me know what you think about it and how I should be proceeding to fix this mess.... Thank you so much, Rino
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Hey rino, I can only see the 1st pic. I think the other 2 are too big a file size or something.
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The urls of the site they are at are as follows: http://my240d.5u.com/images/1.jpg, http://my240d.5u.com/images/2.jpg, http://my240d.5u.com/images/3.jpg You'll have to copy and paste each address into your browser, since the hosting site I'm using does not allow direct linking. Thanks, Rino
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rhino, use photobucket.com, it's real simple to upload pics from there.
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Looks like some kind of homemade version of a sway bar link. In this picture, does the rod (sway bar) I put an arrow on connect to the rod your talking about?
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It looks like your photo shows a sway bar linkage.
The sway bar is not part of the brakes, it is a bar that connects the suspension on one side to the suspension on the other side. It is designed to "persuade" the other suspension to collapse some if one side is collapsed some, and vice versa. When you are taking a corner, the outside suspension wants to compress, and the inner suspension wants to extend, and the sway tries to keep them somewhat even, resulting in less sway when you corner. If one side is disconnected, then you just have much poorer performance when you corner, but no other functional impact. It has nothing to do with your brakes, control arms, ball joints etc. If I had to guess, I would say the other piece that that sway bar linkage connected to (on the back of the hub) came loose and fell inside to the area where the parking brake shoes are, and that is causing the noise and the drag. That's my vote.
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so sorry about the animal name... Rino
what year is your car? I will look again tonight to see if I have anything like that on my 78 D.
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It's a 1979 240D, chassis 123123...
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