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henrydupont 03-22-2007 10:07 PM

so, what does that rack damper bolt (617) actually do?
 
does it do more than simply adjust idle? what 'rack' does it adjust? how to make a 617 not shake at idle? is it possible??

bgkast 03-22-2007 11:27 PM

It dampens the rack. ;)

300SD81 03-22-2007 11:36 PM

My best guess is that the rack is something inside the injection pump that controls how much fuel is injected, by dampening it, it cancels out the vibration of the engine from creating a resonating injection of fuel that makes the vibration worse, someone pleasr correct me if i'm wrong...

bgkast 03-22-2007 11:38 PM

As far as I understand that is correct.

I'm sure somebody who has commited the Bosch manual to memory will chime in soon. :D

300sdToronto 03-23-2007 09:11 AM

Was ist der rack?
 
I to - as a newbie - have wondered what the rack actually is. I asked the same question a while back and never got a posting that explained what the rack in the IP does.

There are lots of postings on how to adjust it, nothing on what you are actually changing by adjusting said bolt.

My engine doesn't vibrate a lot at idle (certainly compared to the tractor :)) so I have never bothered to mess with it.

SD Blue 03-23-2007 02:26 PM

Sorry I couldn't find a photo but here goes..........o o o o o.(the o's=valves & underline=rack)............The rack is a geared shaft in the IP that turns a tapered plunger in the fuel delivery valve to control the amount of fuel delivered with each stroke. When the rack returns to idle, the dampner cushions the return for a more gradual decrease at the very end of its travel.

DeliveryValve 03-23-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SD Blue (Post 1459084)
Sorry I couldn't find a photo but here goes..........o o o o o.(the o's=valves & underline=rack)............The rack is a geared shaft in the IP that turns a tapered plunger in the fuel delivery valve to control the amount of fuel delivered with each stroke. When the rack returns to idle, the dampner cushions the return for a more gradual decrease at the very end of its travel.

Yes that concept is correct and let me add on each plunger there is a groove in which allows fuel to leak out to the bleed holes to limit the pressure. The "control" rack turns the plunger so the grooves can meet up with the bleed hole.

Here is the pics that your looking for.

TheDon 03-23-2007 03:40 PM

I have an IP completely dissasembled and that rack itself is pretty cool

henrydupont 03-23-2007 07:45 PM

truly great information there. so when I adjust the rack damper I'm not adjusting idle speed, just idle shakyness? what adjusts idle speed then?

kerry 03-23-2007 07:47 PM

There's an idle adjusting screw on the IP on the block side. It has a slotted head and a lock nut.

JamesDean 03-24-2007 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 1458555)
It dampens the rack. ;)

why would we want to "dampen" any "rack"? lol lol

ForcedInduction 03-25-2007 10:55 PM

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Here is a picture of the old silver damper and the new gold damper. (The blue lines in the picture are camera artifacts).

leathermang 01-04-2010 08:21 PM

I do not know exactly what the rack dampner does...
but I know the MB engineers designed it so that future wear ( excess play ) could be ' taken out' by adjusting it..

whunter 04-04-2015 04:56 AM

Recycled
 
For new members.
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