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kerry 03-23-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 1459145)
Not if it's a manual tranny.

- Peter.

Shop manual(published 1982) states that up until June 1978 all 240d 616 got an oil cooler. After July 1978 it was only put on vehicles with AC.

It doesn't say anything about a correlation with manual or auto transmissions.

sedecrem 03-23-2007 04:45 PM

240Ds W/oil coolers
 
Both my '79 keeper and '80 engine donor are 240Ds, have 4 speed man. trannys, had A/Cs and have oil coolers.

Sedecrem

Lonesome 03-23-2007 09:52 PM

Thanks for all the help and input guys!
we got it off the highway and trailered it home. I'll get a better look at it tomorrow but I did check the chain and it wasnt the chain.
The oil splatters are on the filter side of the engine. It didnt want to turn over last night but I tried it today and it would turn but it made a bad sound while it was turning. I looked under the car where it sat last night and it had a very small puddle of oil. I'll keep you posted on other findings.
The good news is that I already found a running 240D parts car that I can pulll the motor out of.

josh

Lonesome 03-23-2007 09:56 PM

also, I think the oil pressure was peaked out like usual but I'm not sure where it was exactly. it all happened really fast.

WINGAS 03-23-2007 11:52 PM

I know what you mean about the engine noise. My first, and my ears arent tuned to the noise yet. Hope I hear a fine tuned one in about a week!

Ffirst thing I did afer I got it home ( 400+ mi.trip) is drop the oil and pop the filter . I then cut the filter apart with tin ships and looked for metal fragments inside. I do that on my "high maintenance" 427, and it saved me from grenading the motor a few years back. ( would have been "spectacular" according to the machnist ). Put the same Rotella(Delo orPenz)/EOS mix in the Mercedes as has kept the 7200 rpm rat "metal flake" free for two years.

Oil filter will show a ton of evidence.

Only metal I found was a piece of a wrapper. Chinese writing. ??? Good thing, I guess.

And cool that you have a replacement lined up. Curious to see what the cause of death was. And then start unbolting stuff!

Are these engines expensive to rebuild or is it straightforward and simlarly priced to any diesel I wonder.

Cervan 03-24-2007 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 1459145)
Not if it's a manual tranny.

- Peter.

i have a 1981 240d manual 4speed it has a oilcooler.

bgkast 03-24-2007 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry edwards (Post 1459159)
Shop manual(published 1982) states that up until June 1978 all 240d 616 got an oil cooler. After July 1978 it was only put on vehicles with AC.

It doesn't say anything about a correlation with manual or auto transmissions.


My October '78 240D with manual transmission and NO FACTORY AC had an oil cooler. May not have been the original engine though with 300K on the clock.

bgkast 03-24-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mespe (Post 1458770)
Sorry to hear about your car's demise. If you upgrade, make sure that you upgrade the front springs too as the 5cyl diesel is a bit heavier then the 4 cyl.


Rubbish. My car has the 240 springs and still sits too high in the front for my tastes.

Lonesome 03-31-2007 05:35 PM

Broken Cam Bearing mounts
 
Well thats the update, I tore into the motor today and all 3 of the mounts are broken. So here is my questions....Does anyone know what could have caused that? Can I just replace the camshaft bearing mounts and move on with my life? Do you think that it tore anything else up? The motor turns freely. Thanks for all your help.
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ForcedInduction 03-31-2007 05:53 PM

That means the pistons hit the valves and pushed up on them hard enough to break the towers.

At the very least, I'd take off the head and check the valve faces to make sure none are bent.

rkohut 03-31-2007 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1466456)
That means the pistons hit the valves and pushed up on them hard enough to break the towers.

Slack timing chain?

ForcedInduction 03-31-2007 06:09 PM

Slack timing chain, broken timing chain, failed chain tensioner, failed chain guide, loose valve lash adjuster(s), or over-revving the engine.

pj67coll 03-31-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cervan (Post 1459695)
i have a 1981 240d manual 4speed it has a oilcooler.

Yes yes. Sorry my mistake. Just spaced it. Mine also does indeed have an oil cooler.

- Peter.

Lonesome 03-31-2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1466463)
Slack timing chain, broken timing chain, failed chain tensioner, failed chain guide, loose valve lash adjuster(s), or over-revving the engine.

I'll check into all of those things, I can safely say it wasnt over reving the engine. : )

truckinik 03-31-2007 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonesome (Post 1458706)
:( My car is an 1984 240D with 198,000 miles on it. Over the past month it's been running a little noisy but I wasnt too worried because thats kind of the nature of these cars. So my wife and I are driving down the highway last night and it felt like we ran over something but we didnt. The engine died and wont start and there is oil splattered in the engine bay.....ughhh.
I think its probably the timing chain, does anyone have any ideas? Heres my other questions, anyone have a motor for sale? and do I have to put another 4 banger in there or can I upgrade to a big dog motor with maybe even a turbo? Thanks for all of your help and a I'm located in Southern Illinois..

Josh

Small block Chevys, fit rather nicely into those cars, and can be had, and converted a lot cheaper, than MBZ components...I did it to one of my 300CD's. Can you say "Sleeper"? :D


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