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Lonesome 04-05-2007 10:57 PM

Cant get tranny to hook up to engine!!!!
 
Swappin engines after the big meltdown. 1983 240D. Anyway, I cant for the life of me get the engine to mate up with the tranny. Has anyone had this problem? It gets real close and I can put the bolts in the bottom but then there is a gap in the top and vice versa.

ForcedInduction 04-05-2007 11:04 PM

Auto or manual.

Don't force it into place.

Alastair 04-05-2007 11:31 PM

What about the 'spigot bearing' --Are you trying to put a 'Manual gearbox' engine onto an auto box, without having removed the bearing from the crank...??

Lonesome 04-06-2007 07:56 AM

It's an automatic and the engine came out of an automatic as well. It seems like it is hanging up where the tranny shaft (whatever its called) slips into the crankshaft. I'll keep messing with it after work.

jshadows 04-06-2007 08:57 AM

sure you have the torque converter on all the way? The joints for attaching it to the flywheel should be nearly flush with the face of the tranny. The last click is the hardest one.

You should also be able to get the transmission such that the studs are at least partially lined up, put a bolt in tighten just a little and then try and get the transmission completely on the studs before continuing.

I find it's best to do this with two people since when the transmission is on the jack it it usually cocked a few degrees off where it should line up with the engine thereby requiring some muscle work.

winmutt 04-06-2007 09:04 AM

I was able to rotate the engine by hand just enough to do the job. Just grab the puelly and make sure your going the right way

Shawn D. 04-06-2007 04:57 PM

Did you bolt the torque converter to the flexplate before trying to mate the engine with the tranny? That's a classic gotcha. You must have the torque converter in the tranny and bolt it to the flexplate after the engine and tranny are bolted together.

P.E.Haiges 04-06-2007 07:06 PM

Lonesome,

I wired the torque converter to the transmission (3 small wires), then pulled the wires out just before tightening the bolts to close the gap. Mine went together easily.

P E H

truckinik 04-06-2007 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn D. (Post 1472375)
Did you bolt the torque converter to the flexplate before trying to mate the engine with the tranny? That's a classic gotcha. You must have the torque converter in the tranny and bolt it to the flexplate after the engine and tranny are bolted together.

DITTO..., You can also destroy your front seal, on your tranny, by doing that. You should always bolt the tranny housing, to the engine block first, and then do the torque converter bolts afterwards. I destroyed, more than one new front seal, trying to bolt the torque converter, to the flywheel first.

JimmyL 04-06-2007 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truckinik (Post 1472527)
DITTO..., You can also destroy your front seal, on your tranny, by doing that. You should always bolt the tranny housing, to the engine block first, and then do the torque converter bolts afterwards. I destroyed, more than one new front seal, trying to bolt the torque converter, to the flywheel first.


I wish I had seen an engine and tranny come apart before, because I can't picture that....:silly:
How can you tighten the torque converter bolts AFTER??
Anybody have a picture of this?

truckinik 04-06-2007 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyL (Post 1472695)
I wish I had seen an engine and tranny come apart before, because I can't picture that....:silly:
How can you tighten the torque converter bolts AFTER??
Anybody have a picture of this?

On the bottom of the bell housing on the engine, there is a removable access/dust cover. With the cover off, after bolting the tranny housing, to the engine block, you reach through the opening, slide the torque converter foreward, to the flywheel, line up the bolt holes, and get your first bolt started. Once the bolt is started, you rotate the crankshaft 'til the next bolt holes come around...Repeat this process x3. Get them all tightened and put the dust shield, and you're done with that step. Sorry, no pics on hand, but crawl under your car and get a retinal scan of the removable dust shield. Pop it off really quick and look at how the torque converter is bolted to the flywheel...

jshadows 04-06-2007 10:39 PM

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notice the window on the front of the transmission. You'll also see the bolt hole which is aligned with the torque converter.

http://img02.yourpix.org/images/04.0..._0823-edit.jpg

Lonesome 04-06-2007 10:45 PM

You guys are right. I just needed to work the torque converter back into the tranny, hopefully I'll be up and running tomorrow!

truckinik 04-06-2007 11:31 PM

Hah, Thank you JShadows..That's the pic I needed to help out answering Jimmy's question. Is your dust cover off, in that pic, or do you not have one at all?

JimmyL 04-06-2007 11:39 PM

Thank yall. A picture says it all.......;)


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