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Old 04-13-2007, 04:17 PM
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124.133 axle is 2.65 which makes it more impressive

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Old 04-13-2007, 04:44 PM
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I need to get off my backside and get this 87 300D running right. all this talk about performance makes me drool over that sleek bodied 124
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:18 PM
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Nah, you need to just give up and drop it off at my place. With keys. And pink slip. And fuel...
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:25 PM
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0-55 time (original, including trap-ox on the 603):

300D Turbo: 8.7sec.
190D 2.5 Turbo: 9.5sec.
300TD Turbo 9.8sec.
300SDL 10.2sec.

The tall (2.65:1) gearing of the 190D turbo and the 300D/300TD turbos didn't help the 0-55/60 times but it's 128mph top speed (300D Turbo) and great gas mileage it did.

When the 300D 2.5 turbo came out, it had shorter final-drive which helped the 0-60 but ironically, the smaller 2.5l engine gets worse mileage than the 3.0l

BTW Mercedes lists the CD of the gas 124 as .31, the diesel as .32.
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:57 PM
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0-55 time (original, including trap-ox on the 603):

300D Turbo: 8.7sec.
190D 2.5 Turbo: 9.5sec.
300TD Turbo 9.8sec.
300SDL 10.2sec.

The tall (2.65:1) gearing of the 190D turbo and the 300D/300TD turbos didn't help the 0-55/60 times but it's 128mph top speed (300D Turbo) and great gas mileage it did.

When the 300D 2.5 turbo came out, it had shorter final-drive which helped the 0-60 but ironically, the smaller 2.5l engine gets worse mileage than the 3.0l

BTW Mercedes lists the CD of the gas 124 as .31, the diesel as .32.
The 300D 2.5T does have a 2.65:1 rear ratio. Published top speed is 122mph with a 12.3 second 0-100km/h. I've seen specs stating a 12.8 0-60, which is longer than the 0-100km/h which is really 62.4mph...my results fall about right in the middle of the two. I bet I'm going to be closer to the 12.3 0-100km/h after I get the new transducer installed when I return home, as I've done some tuning up of the fuel system since I've tested it last.

Mine does straight up 3000rpm at 75mph.

124 comparisons from the data I have:

124.133/603.960 - 300DT: 0-100km/h = 10.9, top speed = 128mph, HP = 148@4600rpm, TQ = 201lb/ft@2400rpm, Rear ratio = 2.65:1, Curb weight = 3375lbs
124.193/603.960 - 300TDT: 0-100km/h = 11.9, top speed = 122mph, HP = 148@4600rpm, TQ = 201lb/ft@2400rpm, Rear ratio = 2.65:1, Curb weight = 3670lbs
124.128/602.962 - 300D 2.5T: 0-100km/h = 12.3, top speed = 122mph, HP = 121@4600rpm, TQ = 165lb/ft@2400rpm, Rear ratio = 2.65:1, Curb weight = 3390lbs
124.131/606.910 - E300D: 0-100km/h = 13.4, top speed = 123mph, HP = 134@5000rpm, TQ = 155lb/ft@2600rpm, Rear ratio = 2.87:1, Curb weight = 3485lbs

Interesting to note that the 6-cyl NA 24-valve 606 produces less torque than the 5-cyl turbo 10-valve 602...at a higher RPM! Probably why they put the slightly shorter rear ratio on there.
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200D in europe is the slowest at 32 seconds to 60
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:19 AM
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What chassis is that Euro 200D? I think there are some 50's/ 60's models such as the 170Ds (or is it 170SD?), 180D, and 190D that are probably slower.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:36 AM
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What chassis is that Euro 200D? I think there are some 50's/ 60's models such as the 170Ds (or is it 170SD?), 180D, and 190D that are probably slower.
Probably the 123 from the 300TD video going around, the one with the specs for all 123 models listed at the end. I agree, a W110 190D or 200D (OM615?) would most likely be even slower.

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