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Old 04-14-2007, 06:12 AM
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Continental is the best brand to go with when dealing with MB applications.
I learned this the hard way years ago...Contis are what the OEM spec is, they have made the belts for Mercedes for decades and there is a difference between them and other brands...just use Contis on your car and no others and you should be all set.

If, in an emergency situation, you need to use another brand it is OK temporarily but they just don't last for years the way the Continentals do.

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Old 04-14-2007, 06:28 AM
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Thumbs up NAPA - Gates.......

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Agreed. The Continentals are metric sized. The NAPA, Gates and all others are not metric and don't quite fit the pulley properly.

This is noted especially with the a/c belt. The narrower Gates won't transmit the required torque properly without overtightening.
I went to my local NAPA guy a few months ago and asked him if he could get me belts "Made in USA and with Metric Dimensions" he assured me that he could, and did.....

The belts were NAPA/Gates.....
XL 7405......for water pump/alternator....sold as a "set" of 2
XL 9365......for AC Compressor
XL 9451......for Power Steering Pump

These belts have been on my car for just over 3 months, and 3,500 miles....they have not required any further adjustment.....

Belts running on multiple sheave pulleys should be purchased in "sets" that were manufactured on the same machine, in the same run, and can be identified by matching numbers molded into the belt......

SB

Note: I happen to prefer to purchase "Made in USA" products when possible, if my NAPA guy would have handed me a set of non metric belts, I would have gotten Continentals from my MB Dealership......
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:47 AM
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I went to my local NAPA guy a few months ago and asked him if he could get me belts "Made in USA and with Metric Dimensions" he assured me that he could, and did.....

The belts were NAPA/Gates.....
XL 7405......for water pump/alternator....sold as a "set" of 2
XL 9365......for AC Compressor
XL 9451......for Power Steering Pump

These belts have been on my car for just over 3 months, and 3,500 miles....they have not required any further adjustment.....

Belts running on multiple sheave pulleys should be purchased in "sets" that were manufactured on the same machine, in the same run, and can be identified by matching numbers molded into the belt......

SB

Note: I happen to prefer to purchase "Made in USA" products when possible, if my NAPA guy would have handed me a set of non metric belts, I would have gotten Continentals from my MB Dealership......
I suppose it's good to buy something made in the USA, even if it is just the $7 fanbelt for a $50,000 German car
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:47 AM
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Note: I happen to prefer to purchase "Made in USA" products when possible, if my NAPA guy would have handed me a set of non metric belts, I would have gotten Continentals from my MB Dealership......
Just keep an eye on those NAPA belts; been there, done that.
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:23 AM
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My belts are MB (the ones that are on there), and they've got to have at least 70k of untouched miles on them. Still no squealing or problems, they are looking a little worn though. I'll replace them sometime soon with the German Conti belts I have had for a while.
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Old 04-14-2007, 02:20 PM
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I went to my local NAPA guy a few months ago and asked him if he could get me belts "Made in USA and with Metric Dimensions" he assured me that he could, and did.....

The belts were NAPA/Gates.....
XL 7405......for water pump/alternator....sold as a "set" of 2

Belts running on multiple sheave pulleys should be purchased in "sets" that were manufactured on the same machine, in the same run, and can be identified by matching numbers molded into the belt......

That's what I am running....XL 7405

I did have to go to two stores to get the set of belts. Maybe that is the problem. One does seem slightly tighter than the other. I'm going to add a lock nut to the adjustment bolt today just to make sure the alternator is staying put.
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If the double belts are mismatched or slightly different lengths all the torque or the vast majority of it is being transmitted by one belt. Also have a good look at the vees the belts ride in. If they are pretty rusty or the new belts are running on a rusty area I have had frequent adjustment problems on other cars with that problem and it is a pain.
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:36 PM
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The pulleys were rusty. They are nice and clean now after all that slipping!.

I tightened them a bit tighter than I usually wound (like to run them fairly loose to go easy on the bearings of the belt driven accessories). So far so good.
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:54 PM
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I'm fairly sure the alternator is not moving. My adjuster bolt is intact.
Biggest problem I had was some of the bolts were so tight, I couldn't break loose, after two days of soaking in PB blaster, without fear of doing damage. Mechanic took care of it, if they broke it, they would of had to replace, and they have a lift, put a pipe on it etc.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:06 PM
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I have been running a Gates serpintine belt on the SDL for 2-3 years and its fine, no strange wear patterns yet. I got ripped though, I paid $40 for it at the local store, could have gotten it cheaper from the dealer.
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Old 04-15-2007, 03:51 AM
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Best belts are from Bando, Japan, outlasts everything else including Gates and Continental I have used previously, although Continental didn't do as bad as Gates.
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:22 AM
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I have a bando serpentine on my 124. I like it so far, but mine has the automatic tensioner so I won't know of a problem until it fails or starts making noise.
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:26 AM
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Bando ran for 7 years of extreme climate with the vehicle parked outside, it still hardly needed adjustment but was getting dryer, in my experience, it would go dry before it would rip and that too in a long time.
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Thumbs up If Detroit made a decent Diesel car.......

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I suppose it's good to buy something made in the USA, even if it is just the $7 fanbelt for a $50,000 German car
I own/drive my car because it's a Diesel, not because it's a Mercedes, and it cost me way less than 50K.......if the "Powers that Be" in Detroit would manufacture a small Pickup with a Diesel that gets 40 MPG or better, I would not be looking for an early '80's VW Caddy.......with solid shock towers.....!!!

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Please Note: that I like German engineering, but my primary reason for owning Diesel vehicles is that I am also running Bio-Diesel, and therefore my fuel is "Grown and Refined in the USA" and not pumped out of the ground somewhere in the Mid East......

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Gassers:
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