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Old 04-18-2007, 10:38 PM
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European delivery from a US dealer is a "US" car. MB alots "X" number of cars to a region/ market and it is up the region/market to decide what they want for their market. This is done together with the factory and the local importer. The reason for the alotment is because of capacity limitations, and it is done quite a bit in advance. I recall working in that department in Stuttgart, at headquaters, and I thought it was wierd that Uganda with Idi Amin at the helm at the time was ordereing something to the tune of 230 MB...If a country did not take their alotment then in next years it was most likely gone...Those were the days when MB sold all they could build..In Germany layoffs are very difficult to do because of labor laws...Things change I am sure over time but proably not a lot is my guess. I also recall MB delivered cars by truck to Afganistan back end of the 70's...drivers were often "well" equiped to make it there...

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I wonder if that included the European Delivery Program, where people went to Germany to select and pick up their car, then have it sent to the US?

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What would that add maybe 2 or 3 more??? Most of those were gassers, not diesels.
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See attachments, from the book Mercedes-Benz production models book 1946-1995 (Motorbooks International, 1995, ISBN # 0879381906).

The numbers sound lower than I would expect, but the book does mention an "alarming" decrease in production of Diesel cars in the late '80s.
Thanks VERY much for that info. I knew they were rare, but not that rare. I have seen about 3 500E's in life and only 1 300D 2.5 (which is owned by my mechanic).

Does anyone know about the numbers for the oddball 95 E300 diesel?

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Hey I'm in a small little town in MO and there is a W116 450SEL for sale that really looks nice and sounds nice when I have been beside it in town. Not sure the model year but my guess is 74 to 79 MY for the big red bomb. That as bad as my 300 2.5L ending up in rural area of MO, instead of a major metro area as you would think a MB would.
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What would that add maybe 2 or 3 more??? Most of those were gassers, not diesels.
I don't know how many more that would add. Mine is such a car, I posted the question not but a month ago to find out what the emblem meant (I bought the car last year). I don't know how popular that program was, but a lot of people on the forum knew about it. I would think at least 100 people a year would want a free trip to Germany!

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Could we say 4,000?

So from 1987 to 1995 of the W124 diesels, even though a few different engines along the way, and aside from the low number of 6 sold in 1989, could we say 4,000 of them in the U.S. over that 8 year period? I'm assuming the first model years shown up to 1991, were low, then more purchased in latter years. I just can't believe there'd only be 2,500 of these running around.

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I wonder if that included the European Delivery Program, where people went to Germany to select and pick up their car, then have it sent to the US?

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The book lists the numbers as production quantities, i.e. the total number made by the factory regardless of the final destination country of the vehicles. It does not seem to specifically show how many were imported to North America.

Some models, like the 190D-2.2 and 300D-2.5 Turbo, were specific to North America, so the production numbers are probably quite close to the number imported here. Other models, like the 300D and 190D-2.5, were sold worldwide so there's no way to tell (from these figures) exactly how many went to North America.

Anyway, to answer the original question, as they are production figures, they'd include european delivery models.

Also, there's always the chance that the book contains errors/omissions... the author included a disclaimer at the front indicating that he compiled the numbers from several sources that sometimes contradicted each other.
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Here's another forum site with similar info (but it's in french):
http://www.w124.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5448

Also see the table below. My guess is that the "Im Inland Verbleiben", "2003", and "2004" columns refer to how many of the cars stayed in Germany (and were remaining in Germany in 2003/04).


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