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rear shocks - Sachs or Bilsteins
Replacing rear shocks on the '83 300SD
Trying to decide between Sachs or Bilsteins Any recommendations of 1 being better than the other?
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1985 300 D T - Rauchsilber (Smoke Sliver Metallic) with MB Tex Quartz 155 = Cream interior - 320K and counting! 1999 E300 TD - Silver - Just got her 3-13-15 ! the 2nd '83 300SD - Brown Metallic - traded away 1985 Limo Diesel aka "Stretchy" - Sliver - Blue Int - Sold but still in Athens 1983 300SD - Brown Metallic - Sold April 2008 1982 300 D T - Royal Blue with Tan interior - Sold |
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Bilsteins
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MB used Sachs as OEM when they built these cars....thats what was on mine when I took off the ORIGINAL shocks a couple weeks ago. I replaced them with Bilstein HD's though.
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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k) |
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Really? I thought the Bilsteins were OEM. Mine are pretty well shot at 240k miles.
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Adam Lumsden (83) 300D Vice-President of the MBCA International Stars Section |
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The 99 had Sachs/Boge's on it when they were changed to Bilistiens at 195k.
Folks talk them down, but, they seem to hold up reasonably well.
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Can't go wrong with either one.
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Very happy with the Bilsteins Comfort on my 85D. But because I was lazy to order and wait for delivery, I'm trying AZ's Gabriel shocks on the 84D. I figured I can return them them if I don't like them. Plus they're lifetime warranty.
I put them on last night and I noticed they seem to be riding high. I only had the right side on. Still working on the left side. Am doing the ball joints too s'why its taking more time. So, haven't test driven the car yet.
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the sooner you start... the sooner you'll get done If it ain't broke, don't fix it.. Its always simpler to tell the truth... 2007 Honda Accord EX 2007 Honda Accord SE V6 96 C220 97 Explorer - Found Another Home 2000 Honda Accord V6 - Found Another Home 85 300D - Found Another Home 84 300D - Found Another Home 80 300TD - Found Another Home Previous cars: 96 Caravan 87 Camry 84 Cressida 82 Vanagon 80 Fiesta 78 Nova Ford Cortina Opel Kadet 68 Kombi Contessa |
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Finished the ball joint and got the Gabriels in. They are not bad actually. Softer ride than previous shocks that PO put in from Carquest. Don't know what brand they are except it had Carquest decal on it. It road pretty stiff.
For $20 a piece, I think I'll keep them on.
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the sooner you start... the sooner you'll get done If it ain't broke, don't fix it.. Its always simpler to tell the truth... 2007 Honda Accord EX 2007 Honda Accord SE V6 96 C220 97 Explorer - Found Another Home 2000 Honda Accord V6 - Found Another Home 85 300D - Found Another Home 84 300D - Found Another Home 80 300TD - Found Another Home Previous cars: 96 Caravan 87 Camry 84 Cressida 82 Vanagon 80 Fiesta 78 Nova Ford Cortina Opel Kadet 68 Kombi Contessa |
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you got the shocks for twenty bucks a piece?
DK
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Holy cow....my billsteins were like 3.5x that price...each!
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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k) |
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Bilstein; if you can afford it.
my fronts have over 400 k on them, and need to be replaced.
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AZ sells the Gabriels for $19.99 ea lifetime wty. Yes, Bilsteins are very good. I have them on my 85D. Like I said above, was just lazy to order and wait so I decided to try these Gabriels and I must say they are good. Lets see how long they'll last. I'm guessing at least 50k miles. Sears put Gabriels on my Caravan 60k miles ago and they're still good.
I'll take a pic later.
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Just put Gabriels on my 82 300D 2 weeks ago. 210,000 miles and I'm pretty sure I pulled the original Sachs off. Gas charge in rears was totally gone and one would not retact more than half way. Gas charge onthe fronts was only about half extention. Fronts and rears almost no dampning left just push or pull the whole length. Anyway the new Gabriels are somewhere between the comfort and HD shock in stiffness. At $20 each with a lifetime warr. I can change them every 2 years and feel good about it. AZ had them in stock Seemed like a good deal we'll see.
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Kevin 82 300D |
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Gabriels
I put Gabriels on the fronts of the 84D and have had it on for over a week now. Still evaluating it... not sure if I like it. Feels kinda mushy. No comparison to the soft ride of the 85D with Bilsteins. I'll give it a month. Might put back the KYB's I took off.
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