Can a 300sd be started without an alternator? I'm going to see some parts cars tomorrow and I know for sure one doesn't have an alternator.

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

a diesel needs nothing except fuel to keep running. Just need a battery and a starter to get it going

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1983 Euro 240D 277K
2016 Mazda 6
Coming Soon, 2013 Mercedes E350 Bluetec
Formers:
2012- Mazda 3
2007 Outlander- complete pile
1995 E300 Diesel 208K
2007 VW Passat 2.0T 63K SOLD
2003 Jaguar X-type 3.0 Sport Sold 04/11 w/88K
2009 Lexus RX350 9061 miles. Sold 04/09
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS:Totaled Sept.,09 @ 24,000
2003 Infiniti I35 58K Sold
1984 300 turbo diesel 222K

Awesome.

I might end up buying two 116 parts cars and a 82 300sd this week as well. Have to start looking at some more things to check for buying parts cars....

Darcy

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

hope the Mrs. is understanding

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1983 Euro 240D 277K
2016 Mazda 6
Coming Soon, 2013 Mercedes E350 Bluetec
Formers:
2012- Mazda 3
2007 Outlander- complete pile
1995 E300 Diesel 208K
2007 VW Passat 2.0T 63K SOLD
2003 Jaguar X-type 3.0 Sport Sold 04/11 w/88K
2009 Lexus RX350 9061 miles. Sold 04/09
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS:Totaled Sept.,09 @ 24,000
2003 Infiniti I35 58K Sold
1984 300 turbo diesel 222K

I've been thinking about the 82 for a while, and just found out about the parts cars, but....

Get this....the Mrs. is the one who SUGGESTED not only that I purchase the 82, but that I also purchase the parts cars.

Me thinks I need to pimp one out for her and paint it whatever frickin colour her heart desires.

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

I'm not 100% sure about the 300SD, but on the w123 300D (CD, TD) the belt that drives the alternator also drives the fan.

It will start and run without the alternator, but it will overheat in minutes without the fan belt.

Yes, D.S, the sd and the D, (and I suspect ALL 617 vehicles.) the alt belt drives the waterpump.
so get the car moved rapidly, and shut it off quickly.
John

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My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

You can throw on a shorter belt to drive it home if it has no alternator. It will fire right up, just don't turn the lights on or use the radio etc.... You will need all the power you can get out of the old decrepit battery it probably has to drive the Brake lights and blinkers for a safe ride home!

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1977 Mercedes 300D

Hmm...good thinking.


I will only be able to drive one at a time anyways, so what I will probably end up doing if I buy them both is to strip and alternator and take it back with me to drive it home.

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

Hmmm...now I find out one has no starter, not sure if it was the same one without the alternator.

How hard is it to remove and replace a starter on a 116, and how much time is involved?

Thanks.

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI

Starter, turbo? If not, shouldn't take long. If yes, it's located just under, eaiser to access from below. Will take longer, of course! Agree with most others, alt turns water pump.

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83 SD

84 CD

if you get a short enough belt you can run it directly to the pump.

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1981 240d (engine donor 1983 240d) recently rebuilt engine hurray! - No more.. fought a tree and the tree won.

pearl black 1983 240d 4speed (Converted!@$$%) atleast the tranny was rebuilt.

That's a clever solution.

I was trying to road test my 84 300TD last week with the alternator out, not realizing that the fan/waterpump wouldn't be spinning. I almost overheated it in less than a mile, but fortunately I looked at the temp gauge before it got too hot. When I saw that gauge I immediately remembered the belt path, but I never would have thought to put on a shorter belt.

Come to think of it, how would you put on a shorter belt? The belt tension adjustment is done with the alternator.

you would have to pull the fan /wp pulley, and get a belt the "right" size, then bolt on the pully with the belt on.
John

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

How long does it take to R&R an alternator?

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79 300SD - $50 out of pocket purchase
03 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD
2003 VW Jetta TDI