Diesel drivers, from being slower, are we harassed more by men or women drivers? - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Stevo · #16 05-21-2007, 07:54 PM

I always try to stay up with the flow but not exceed the speed limit more than 5 mph, beyond that if theres a tailgater back there I just turn down the rear view mirror so I dont have too look at the ugly SUV. Ive really never had any problem. the same type of a** holes tale gate when I drive my truck.

. If 5 miles over isnt fast enough for ya, then "eat my shorts"

Oh I just remembered a time down in Oragon, I stopped at a STOP SIGN and a woman behind me flipped me off, it was'nt really even a real stop, more a "rolling" stop (what we used too call a Hollywood stop). There was nobody else around, guess she figured I shoulda not stopped at all.

Ara T. · #17 05-21-2007, 08:21 PM

Just let people pass. It's not worth getting shot or rear ended or attacked just because you think you're going fast enough for everyone.

pgringo · #18 05-21-2007, 09:07 PM

oh man...since i got the benz, i've been wrenching on it to get it up to snuff and dialed in, so i've been flooring it everywhere i go to see how it behaves. well, running it on wvo is nice and cheap, so i'm not worried about me, BUT, i have noticed that people, mostly overweight people in their late thirties driving 4 door econoboxes, floor it off the line like their car is going to fly past me in their left lane while they think i'm going to putt along in the land yacht in my right lane. (where do they get the money for all that fuel?!) heheheh. thanks to a little thing called BOOST, my '82 300sd has not failed to leave them all in the dust from off the line. she's even done a number on a few v6 trucks and suv's. i have been pleasantly surprised.

the road where i do this the most has a few stop lights in an area where the speed limit is 50 or 55, so i am getting a good idea of my zero to 50 or zero to 60 performance.

on the other hand, when i used to drive my boosted intercooled volvo station wagon, people were constantly pulling out in front of me. i'm pretty sure they had the perception that car would be driven slowly. it's a good thing i was running wide sticky tires, fat swaybars, and the rwd volvos have 4 wheel disk brakes.

peace.
-philip

vstech · #19 05-21-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BodhiBenz1987

I have people drive up my tail all the time, when I'm going 10 mph over the speed limit, and I'm sorry to say it's usually "my kind" (20-something women). It has nothing to do with me being slow, it has to do with them needing to show me how much more important they are than me, and how they can't be inconvenienced by having me stand in the way of them going 15 or 20 mph over the speed limit.

this is the part I was referring to, I did read the part where you try to get out of the way of others, and I just wanted to rant, nothing personal against you bhodi, just I noticed the part in the immediate subsentence that says you

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I love it when one gets behind me and frantically finds a way to pass me at full-throttle (sometimes offering a gesture on the way), only to meet with a red light, or the congested traffic right ahead of us. It's amazing to me how women will dart around you just so they can sit 15 feet ahead of you in the heavy traffic jam.

from this I understand you were talking about the idiots that swerve and fly around without knowing what is ahead. but still, I somehow got that you don't move out of the way when someone is in a hurry. If it's only when you are in congestion, it was I that got up on the wrong side of the post... sorry.
I agree with that, I love it when there is nowhere to go due to traffic backups, or just heavy congestion in general. and morons go flying in and out of traffic and ride up on bumpers with absolutely nowhere for anybody to go that is not insane.
those types are to be avoided and their gestures/whatever to be ignored.

once again, I apologize for the misunderstanding. Glad to hear you move for the speeder in general.
the rest of the rant was aimed at other readers too, hoping to help explain why it's so important to move over to the right.

on another foot (since one is already in my mouth) I also hate the multilane in city highways that limit what lanes 18wheelers travel in, and slowpokes sitting in the only passing lane they can legally use. (usually the left of the two right lanes) when there is another lane to their left that is mostly unused, that they could move into out of the truck's way.
this only applies on the 4 lane or more parts of the highway. I understand sometimes why they don't want to move into the right lane. especially around exits and entrances. due to merging and such traffic, moving into the right lane would slow them down, but if there is a pair of lanes to their left, if makes sense to go there when a truck is trying to get out of the slow lane and move.

just me ranting again,
at least it's a diesel truck (making this post part of the diesel discussion)
John

vstech · #20 05-21-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevo

I always try to stay up with the flow but not exceed the speed limit more than 5 mph, beyond that if theres a tailgater back there I just turn down the rear view mirror so I dont have too look at the ugly SUV. Ive really never had any problem. the same type of a** holes tale gate when I drive my truck.

. If 5 miles over isnt fast enough for ya, then "eat my shorts"

Oh I just remembered a time down in Oragon, I stopped at a STOP SIGN and a woman behind me flipped me off, it was'nt really even a real stop, more a "rolling" stop (what we used too call a Hollywood stop). There was nobody else around, guess she figured I shoulda not stopped at all.

arrrrgh!
stevo, THIS is the problem driver on the road. doing this causes the "speeder" to get angry, and possibly do something stupid that may cause an accident further down the road. while you feel you may be slowing down an evil speeder, like I said earlier with my foot in my mouth to bhodi, you're not the police. let the speeder go on speeding on the highway. most speed limits on highways are there solely to generate speeding tickets for income of the court systems. hardly any $$ goes to the police, but they get pressured by the bosses to set up the speed traps, so let them charge the SUV drivers or whatever speeders out there, and you just move over to the right when they get behind you on the highway.
really, it is the safe and right thing to do.
if you were on the road in front of me, and I knew the speed limit in my area is artificially low, just to generate money, and I wanted to go 10,15,or more over the limit, really, it's my problem not yours. for saftey's sake, move over.
the left lanes are for going faster. and for passing slower drivers. forcing a speeder to pass on the right is against the law, and really, you can be ticket for it.
in germany, on the autobahn the police are there for two things, to alert drivers of an accident, and to ticket drivers that are moving slow in the fast lane.
no speed limits...
ahhh, if only.
John

Oxnard guy · #21 05-21-2007, 09:32 PM

If someone tailgates me ...I just hit the brakes!

Brian Carlton · #22 05-21-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech

once again, I apologize for the misunderstanding. Glad to hear you move for the speeder in general.
the rest of the rant was aimed at other readers too, hoping to help explain why it's so important to move over to the right.

Since you're a big fan of allowing the $hitbox to go 90 mph in traffic that is routinely travelling at 70 mph.........I'll give you a scenario and you tell me what you do:

Two lanes of traffic each direction........limited access highway. Limit: 55

Right lane is travelling at 60-65 depending on conditions and individuals.

Left lane is travelling at 65-70 depending on conditions and individuals.

Both lanes are relatively full of traffic. However, the right lane can open up by 200-300 feet at times. The left lane rarely opens up........the people generally increase speed to match the traffic........it almost never climbs to 75.

So, you're travelling in the left with traffic going 70. You've got about six lengths in front of you. $hitbox climbs up your ass and has a burning desire to go 90 with 20 feet of following distance. But, if you move right.......you must slow into the 62 mph traffic. Additionally, you're probably not getting back into the left anytime soon, because the $hitbox will have someone behind him that won't let you in.

So, if you agree to move right, then you make the conclusion that every single person in the left should move right.......and slow down to 62 in the right........just so one POS $hitbox can race ahead and force the next driver over to the right lane so that he can travel 80 in a 55.

Do I have this correct.........is that what you propose?

Because if it's me in the left.........it's not going to happen.

BodhiBenz1987 · #23 05-21-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech

from this I understand you were talking about the idiots that swerve and fly around without knowing what is ahead.

Yup ... that is exactly what I was speaking of. When in congestion, there is no "fast lane," but there's always somebody who thinks they're going to find a way to go faster than everyone elsevia "creative maneuvering." A lot of the driving I do isn't on interstates, but on smaller highways where there are a lot of turns and lights and stop and go. Or back roads with one lane going each way ... I have seen the most godawfully dangerous moves from people trying to pass me on blind corners, hills, you name it, when I'm going the speed limit or over it. I always cross my fingers that they don't kill some family coming the other way.

BodhiBenz1987 · #24 05-21-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Since you're a big fan of allowing the $hitbox to go 90 mph in traffic that is routinely travelling at 70 mph.........I'll give you a scenario and you tell me what you do:

Two lanes of traffic each direction........limited access highway. Limit: 55

Right lane is travelling at 60-65 depending on conditions and individuals.

Left lane is travelling at 65-70 depending on conditions and individuals.

Both lanes are relatively full of traffic. However, the right lane can open up by 200-300 feet at times. The left lane rarely opens up........the people generally increase speed to match the traffic........it almost never climbs to 75.

So, you're travelling in the left with traffic going 70. You've got about six lengths in front of you. $hitbox climbs up your ass and has a burning desire to go 90 with 20 feet of following distance. But, if you move right.......you must slow into the 62 mph traffic. Additionally, you're probably not getting back into the left anytime soon, because the $hitbox will have someone behind him that won't let you in.

So, if you agree to move right, then you make the conclusion that every single person in the left should move right.......and slow down to 62 in the right........just so one POS $hitbox can race ahead and force the next driver over to the right lane so that he can travel 80 in a 55.

Do I have this correct.........is that what you propose?

Because if it's me in the left.........it's not going to happen.

This is kind of what I was thinking of in my first post ... it's one thing if you're the only two cars on the road, or in thin, spaced-out traffic, but most places I drive you don't have the option of just hopping into the other lane. I definately like to get out of the way, but sometimes you just can't. And sometimes I can't afford to leave the lane I'm in, because I have a turn or exit coming up and won't be able to get back in.

vstech · #25 05-21-2007, 10:31 PM

I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy...
sorry again.
the scenario I am grumpy about is when there is plenty of room to go same speed a lane to the right.
HOWEVER, truthfully, if there is a $hitbox doing excessive speed, and there is room to move to the right, even though it will slow you down, THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! the majority of $hitbox drivers when speeding, will pass on the right, it's dangerous. it could put YOUR life at danger. and they may think maliciously about you and shoot you for slowing them down.
now I am obviously not saying to pull off the shoulder to allow anybody creeping up your tail unobstructed access, just that when there is somewhere to move to, do it.
I am sorry if I offended anybody. What I really want is two lane highways that all go where I want, with no other drivers on the road in my way.
oh, and no speed limits.
John

Brian Carlton · #26 05-21-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech

HOWEVER, truthfully, if there is a $hitbox doing excessive speed, and there is room to move to the right, even though it will slow you down, THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO!

We disagree.

Why should every single person in the left lane move to the right........and slow down........requiring the use of brakes on occasion........and screwing up the flow in the right lane.........simply to allow ONE $hitbox to travel at 80 mph?

The left lane will only go 70. Every single person would need to move right to allow the $hitbox to go 80. The lack of safety in the lane change by hundreds of drivers trumps the lack of safety in holding the $hitbox in the left lane and forcing him to tailgate for a few miles. Eventually, he'll attempt to fly around in the right lane once 200 feet makes itself apparent........but........I'll usually foil that maneuver with some careful planning.........he he won't even know I did it.

300SD81 · #27 05-21-2007, 11:18 PM

I'm one of those people who drive excessively fast, but I know when to back off, if the car in the left lane is moving faster than the one in the right, I keep my distance.. What really annoys me is when theres 2 or 3 cars on the road, while theres absolutely no traffic, and they decide to drive almost side by side, blocking the whole road.. Either speed up, slow down, or move over so others can pass..

spark3542 · #28 05-21-2007, 11:38 PM

means "drive right" auf deutsch.

respect the high speed driver, prevalent in europe, lacking in the US.

In Boston, 128 blows away 495 (inner beltway vs outer beltway). Commuters know how to maintain 80 in bumper to bumper on 128, 495 is NJ snowmobile trailers looking to get north, and they are very brake happy.

I love horrifying my inlaws that fly in from VA and I pick them up at Logan and take them out the pike to metrowest.

This post dedicated to the impatient yankees of the world.

Stevo · #29 05-22-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vstech

arrrrgh!
stevo, THIS is the problem driver on the road. doing this causes the "speeder" to get angry, and possibly do something stupid that may cause an accident further down the road. while you feel you may be slowing down an evil speeder, like I said earlier with my foot in my mouth to bhodi, you're not the police. let the speeder go on speeding on the highway. most speed limits on highways are there solely to generate speeding tickets for income of the court systems. hardly any $$ goes to the police, but they get pressured by the bosses to set up the speed traps, so let them charge the SUV drivers or whatever speeders out there, and you just move over to the right when they get behind you on the highway.
really, it is the safe and right thing to do.
if you were on the road in front of me, and I knew the speed limit in my area is artificially low, just to generate money, and I wanted to go 10,15,or more over the limit, really, it's my problem not yours. for saftey's sake, move over.
the left lanes are for going faster. and for passing slower drivers. forcing a speeder to pass on the right is against the law, and really, you can be ticket for it.
in germany, on the autobahn the police are there for two things, to alert drivers of an accident, and to ticket drivers that are moving slow in the fast lane.
no speed limits...
ahhh, if only.
John

Huh...Are you saying if I'm driving along at 5 mph over the speed limit and someone come comes up behind me and wants too go faster that i should pull over to the side of the road so he or she can pass me? Perhaps I didn't explain that I was't talking about a situation where I was in the LEFT lane of a freeway, that really pisses me off, sombody poking along in the left lane.

ray m · #30 05-22-2007, 01:24 AM

I just thank god that whatever happened to them didn't happen to me to make me that way and then press the windshield wiper button that sprays fluid up and over my car and onto there windshield because they have been pointed in that direction. They usually get the idea and back off. RAY M