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Old 06-02-2007, 11:32 PM
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low speed poor performance

85 300SD 231,000 - bought with 180,000 in Oct 2005 - used for communting from Tennessee to Maryland and back a few times each month. Just useless FYI!!

Problem is.. at low speeds taking off, it can hardly get out of it's own way especially with A/C - was going to give this to my son when he gets his license but i'm a little worried it is too slow and he'll have no power to get out of trouble if he pulls out in front of someone.

i hooked up a pressure gauge between the switchover valve and the line to the ALDA. when taking off i get 1-3 psi until about 2500 rpm when the pressure starts climbing. at about 3000 rpm i'm getting 7.5 psi. My 126 Service Manual CD tells me I should have more like 11-13 psi at 2000 rpm and around 6 psi at 1500 rpm. also hooked up pressure gauge so the switchover valve was bypassed (line from manifold was t'd with the line going to ALDA. same readings so it appears switchover valve is NOT at fault for limiting boost

i have 84 300SD that seems to have a lot more low end pickup AND you can hear the turbo whistle as you take off. i never hear the turbo on the 85

i get about 27 mpg on the highway going about 70 mph on my 10 hr drives

i've been working at replacing all the little rubber vacuum connectors, i've cleaned my line from the manifold to the switchover valve - it was never plugged up but cleaned it out anyway

both fuel filters were replaced in late December after performing diesel purge which resulted in NO perceptible performance enhancement. air filter replaced about 6 weeks ago.

i finally broke down and "molested" my ALDA. took the seal off and turned the screw counter clockwise 1/4 turn. made no discernable difference, turned it out 1/2 turn, made no difference other than started smoking on take off so i turned it back in to just a 1/4 turn

any comments? anything i should check to help figure this out?

R Martin
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:37 PM
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When was the last time the valves were adjusted?
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just had the valve adjustment done maybe a two months ago?
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:48 PM
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Have you cleaned the tank strainer? You can see if it's the problem by swapping the fuel supply and return lines. If it's clogged, you will see a significant difference.

Is it starting in 1st? How many shifts do you feel?
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:59 PM
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All the shifts occur.. no transmission problems apparent.

How does one clean the tank strainer? although it doesn't seem to be lacking for fuel as it cruises non-stop at 70 mph for 10 hours at a time without missing a beat.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:05 AM
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The tank strainer is above the right axle (At least on the W123, not sure on the W126). Remove the fuel line coming out of it and use a 46mm socket to unscrew it out of the tank. Just make sure it's nearly empty before you try to remove the strainer.

Cruising is no problem, it takes very little fuel to do that. You need the most fuel while you are accelerating.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:21 AM
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Usually poor performance at low speeds can be traced to the lack of proper valve adjustment, late camshaft timing, and/or late IP timing.

All of these need to be in specs if the vehicle will perform at low speeds.
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so the low boost pressures don't seem to concern anyone?
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so the low boost pressures don't seem to concern anyone?
The low boost doesn't affect the launch. I reduces your 0-60 time a bit but you'd probably never notice it.
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Have you cleaned the tank strainer? You can see if it's the problem by swapping the fuel supply and return lines. If it's clogged, you will see a significant difference.
I don't understand what you mean by swapping the fuel lines.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:42 AM
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Swap the supply and return line. Put the cigar hose and the hose before the fuel filter on the opposite metal lines.
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:15 AM
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tried to do the switch but the cigar hose isn't long enough to connect to the supply line. when i disconnected the supply side hose, the fuel just trickled out. should it have run out as if there was some pressure behind it?
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:18 AM
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If there is any pressure in the tank or you have a full tank of fuel it will come out quickly.
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:23 AM
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just filled up this evening
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:44 AM
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Is the car a Ca. model? If so, has the trap ox been replaced? It could be plugged up.

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