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dwoloz 06-03-2007 12:34 AM

Any luck getting a valve adjustment wrench on the cheap?
 
Planning on doing a valve adjustment but looking to get a tool to do it on the cheap

Seems like an offset crescent wrench from Sears or the like would work just fine. Anyone use something like this?

Also thought about using socket attachment crow feet with a socket extenstion. They look like this and you can get them cheap from Harbor Freight
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...4499/94427.gif


Input?

Monomer 06-03-2007 12:38 AM

just get a craftsmen wrench and bend it.


cost would be around $10.

dwoloz 06-03-2007 12:40 AM

Or even cheaper, a Harbor Freight wrench :)

What is the size needed btw?

ForcedInduction 06-03-2007 12:41 AM

14mm.

bgkast 06-03-2007 01:35 AM

I've never used them, standard wrenches work fine.

Douglas.Sherida 06-03-2007 10:08 AM

Almost more important than having bent wrenches is having thin wrenches.

I bought a pair of extra long no name 14mm open end/box end wrenches from AutoZone, bent them myself then ground them down to make them thinner.

When I bent them I made a point to bend them so that I had one each of "left- and right-handed" offsets. You know how the open end of the wrench is angled ~10 degrees from the shaft? Well, one is angled to teh right and the other is angled to the left, relative to the bending I did.

To bend the wrench: clamp it in a vise (if you have one, if not C-clamp it to the edge of a sturdy bench or brick), use a propane torch (MAPP gas would be better) to heat the wrench up right at the "neck", and beat the crap out of it with a big hammer until you bend the headabout 45 degrees relative to the shaft. Heating it will not only make it easier to bend, it will reduce the likelyhood of breaking the metal. Flip the whench over and move it forward in the vise by about 5 cm. Repeat to put a second bend in the wrench that brings the head back into the same plane as the shaft. When all is said and done, grind the head of the wrench on a bench grinder down to about 6mm thick (I don't recall off the top of my head).

I think I spent about $6-8 each for the wrenches, plus $10 for a can of MAPP gas. I would highly recommend using exta long handled wrenches for bending as the overall throw you lose in the offset can really effect the effort required to loosen/tighten the valve nuts.

The only reason you need these bent wrenches is for clearance over the injectors, injector lines and leak lines. Having at least one of them be thinner than normal (for a 14mm wrench), helps to get the prober clearance to spin the (lower) lock nut on the valve. As stated, you can do the job without the "special" wrenches, but having the proper tool can make all the difference with your frustration level.

The other part of the valve adjusting wrench set is the spring retaining clip. It keeps the valve spring from rotating while you are turning the locknut/cap nut, making it easier/faster to set the valve clearances. It is not a necessity, but again... proper tools = less cursing. I swear I've spent 30 minutes trying to adjust a single valve when the spring keeps turning. I haven't made a home made tool for this one yet, but I sometimes use a pair of needle nose vice grips to keep the sring from turning. Again, clearance is the big issue.

Just my $0.02

Stevo 06-03-2007 01:05 PM

I would suggest starting out with half way decent wrenches, I used chepos and one of them opened up slightly:mad: You dont want to round off any lock nuts and they can be quite tight.

caviterruptor 06-15-2007 06:18 PM

Too little clearance, Clarence
 
Which way do I turn the valve adjusting nut to increase valve clearance?

Also, Haynes says to measure clearance between rocker arm & cam shaft, yet picture shows a guy w/ feeler between valve & rocker. Which is correct? I tend to trust the mechanic more than the book, in which I've found numerous errors.

Finally, is Haynes right calling the top nut the adjuster & the bottom the lock nut?

I can't believe I can't find an article on valve adjustment so I could toss Haynes.

winmutt 06-15-2007 06:27 PM

Rocker and cam. Get a cheap set of 14mm longs and bend them as needed. I have found that a vertical wrench placed between the cam towers and the valves will keep the lower spring part from moving.

Stevo 06-15-2007 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caviterruptor (Post 1537477)
Which way do I turn the valve adjusting nut to increase valve clearance?
.

The nut on top is the "adjusting" nut. Turn it to the left (down) to increase clearance. Of course the lock nut has too be turned to the left (down) to allow the adjusting nut room to be turned down. When the top nut gives the right clearance, and your happy with what the "feel her" gauge says, hold it and turn the lock nut up to "lock" it.

Shorebilly 06-16-2007 07:06 AM

You don't mention the year & model of your car....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caviterruptor (Post 1537477)
I can't believe I can't find an article on valve adjustment so I could toss Haynes.

Look here.....

http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/index.do

Mouse over "Classic Center" and select "Technical Literature"......then enter your vehicle info as directed.....the "W123 Service Manual Library on CD" is about $20.00....

The CD is in an older .pdf file, and uses an older version of Acrobat.....it isn't the best, but for $20.00 the price is right.....

SB

rkpatt 06-16-2007 06:19 PM

Would someone please post some pics of your custom ( bent / ground ) wrenches . - Thanks

tankdriver 08-01-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkpatt (Post 1538176)
Would someone please post some pics of your custom ( bent / ground ) wrenches . - Thanks

bump. I'd like to see a pic too if possible.

Douglas.Sherida 08-01-2007 08:35 PM

Here you go:

http://www.ultimatekayakfishing.com/..._57_130020.jpg

I misspoke before, I only put one bend in the wrenches. Obviously I'm no fabricator (I've seen much nice home made wrenches), I'm just a guy with a torch, a big hammer and a grinder. :D

tankdriver 08-01-2007 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas.Sherida (Post 1580155)
I misspoke before, I only put one bend in the wrenches. Obviously I'm no fabricator (I've seen much nice home made wrenches), I'm just a guy with a torch, a big hammer and a grinder. :D

Thank you. They look to have accomplished the most important goal of fabrication - they work.


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