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Old 06-29-2007, 01:59 AM
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could still be a bad battery. take it to autozone or somewhere and have them test it for free. The battery on my Regal died the other day, and it was less than a year old. cells can go bad in a battery rather fast. Same thing happend to my moms car not to long ago. I went to her house and hoped in, everything worked and it didn;t crank. Put a new battery in, solved the problem

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Old 06-29-2007, 11:52 AM
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yep. When I came back to the thread, I didn't see my own reply so I posted it again.
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:04 PM
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Here's something interesting I just noticed. When I was driving without that relay I mentioned earlier, the temp gague, fuel gague, oil level, and rpm gague on the cluster did not work. Now, with the new relay pluged in, they still don't work. I just noticed this today. Also, I tried the nss test, still no start. I'm quite sure it's not the battery because I've been starting it by running a jumper wire straight from the battery to the pin that leads to the starter with no problems.
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:54 AM
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Sure, and bypassing the GP circuit which is the big draw on the battery. Its the battery. CHeck its draw. I havent replaced mine yet, but I would think these batteries must be able to draw 750 amps to start a 22:1 compression engine with a GP sytem on. It aint a Celica.

And it starts easy cold??? Amazing with no GPs on.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:41 PM
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If it is the battery then I don't know what to say. Yea, it starts up just fine every time. I'm going to borrow my friends multimeter tomorrow to check the voltage anyway. I've started the car atleast 60 times over the past month. I wouldn't think that it would go from not even cranking to starting instanly just because I bypassed a few circuits. If it isn't the battery, then is there a switch, fuse, or anything that is linked to the non functioning cluster gauges(fuel, temp, oil, rpms)? Perhaps something that would also prevent electricity from reaching the starter?
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:50 PM
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Ok
You have verified starter circuit from the 3 wire connector plug on firewall. So, now take a 12v test lamp or meter and hook it on the unplugged harness side, [ not the connector on firewall side].. Same circuit, but this is feed to the fire wall plug. Test lamp leads go to the center wire of harness and a good ground for other test lead.. Now, go turn key to start position and watch 12v lamp..if NO lamp [ which is what I expect], you have a problem with the NSS or the K38 starter lock-out relay..
Try that simple test ...
Also , spin fuse #5 in it's holder..that is K38 feed and retry 12v test lamp after verifying fuse [ best fuse test is with same test lamp..go to each side of fuse and ground w/key ON , don't just look at fuse as they will fool you]


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