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Old 06-17-2007, 11:34 PM
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w123/300D which european lights better and replacement parts availibility

There are 2 "styles" european headlights for w123. Round ones and square ones. Which one is better for light output? Why are there 2 styles of euro headlights?

For those of you that have cracked your glass or had it pitted, how much was the bosch replacement glass? Can it be ordered from the MB dealer? I know most dealers parts departments are not familar with european equipment for a 20yr old car. Thanks in advance...

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Old 06-17-2007, 11:57 PM
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they are both superior than the sealed beams. It is really a personal choice

the square ones make the car look more modern where as the rounds make it look classic. you can also stay with the US spec lights and replace the sealed beam with a 7" round hella light that takes an H4 bulb if you love your plastic covered us specs...


the glass for the squares ones can be found for 125$ each side.

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Old 06-18-2007, 12:26 AM
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Hi the don,

What I meant is, are the "euro rounds" compared to "euro squares", which one offers better light output?
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:28 AM
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oh, I don't know... I'm just happy my light output is better than the sealed beams
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:49 AM
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The round ones are supposed to be the superior Euros because of something to do with the parabola.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:57 AM
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The "lesser" models had the round lights while the premium models got the squares.
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:29 AM
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Hmm interesting...

The "lesser models" get the "euro roundies", but they have better light output than the "euro squares", haha, shows you how ironic things are sometimes

So how hard is it to get replacement glass lenses for the "euro roundies"? How much do those cost and do you have a part number?

$125 for euro squares lens is not too bad, considering they last much longer than those plastic american counterparts for $60 that crack every few years.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:55 AM
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You should also take another factor in consideration for your purchase decision (particularly if you purchase a second-hand set eurolights).

Avoid UK(and Japan, Malaysia, Hongkong, Australia,...) and France Headlights. The fist illuminate the wrong side of the street and the latter is completly yellow (so unless you like it, be aware that it illuminates less than the whities, but you are more visible).

Square euro lights are easier to find that euro-rounds if that is a factor.

I like how the square look on a 116 or a 126 on the 123 i would prefer the rounds.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:20 AM
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So wait a minute, are the US spec lights round as well?
I'm confuzzled as to which lights I have right now.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:43 AM
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I have the round Euros in one 240 and the square ones in another 240 and they BOTH do an amazing job. I have both protected by "Stone Gaurd". Its not cheap, think I payed around $40 ea, but its done a good job and has held up well. I payed around $80 for the round euros, The square ones came in my euro "85" car, including the vacuum hight adjustment.
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The round Euros are known as "low-spec". I think the rounds give a more focused, less spread out light. (I currently only have the rounds and the US DOT.) Either style of Euros should do well for you.

IMO, the round look better on the gold or champagne color, while I think the squares (will) look better on the slightly darker petrol color.

The squares make the front look squater and wider because of the horizontal vanes under the lights.
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:29 AM
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So where do you guys buy the replacement glass for the "euro roundies"? And how much?

It seems like everywhere I look, they are for the "euro squares" only.

It would be kinda pointless to buy "euro roundies" if I cant get parts for them.
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That's wierd. Over here in Europe squares are much more scarce than round ones...

As a lot of guys mentioned the squares were for the high end ones and here basically 90% of W123s got the round ones.

I am not sure about which one is better, so I'd decide by the looks. Well, that's what I did with mine, anyway. I couldn't stand rounds - probably because they are so common over here - and switched them to squares, which look way better, I think.

So, I'd suggest getting squares, anyway, even if you could find parts for both, but up to you!
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By "euro roundies", do you meen E-code replacements for US sealed beams or a totally different headlight assy?

I am planning to replace my 7" US sealed beams with Cibie H4 domed lens e-code replacements. They are about $62 each.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html
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From work I got a brand new set of euro roundies that are now in my 300D, and I also have for parts....Also have a set of euro squares up forsale.

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