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Old 06-20-2007, 07:51 AM
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Me personally, I don't tailgate for one very simple reason. Since I have insurance and if I hit that person for whatever reason (he brake checks me, I go too fast, etc, etc), my insurance pays and they tend to frown on it.

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Old 06-20-2007, 11:00 AM
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I get out of the left lane when I see someone catching up to me,,, sorta like the autobahn,,, but when (like the original poster stated,,, on a two lane country road) someone tailgates me I slow down to 5 MPH under the limit, and keep it there, I feel that the 5 MPH under the limit is good defensive driving, just in case I do need to slam on the brakes,,, i.e. deer runs out, car backs out of a driveway,,, etc.
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It's the law here. Slower traffic keep right. It does not matter what speed you are doing, if there is someone faster, you are legally required to move over. Period. And in the realistic world, that is a very good law. It is designed to prevent people from going ballistic when stuck behind a slower car, even if the slower car is doing over the speed limit.
Face it, someone that is driving 90 while the majority of people are doing 75, in heavy traffic, is a problem. This law makes it where he/she can just keep on going without causing a confrontation. It certainly beats making the impatient driver weave in and out of traffic.

Notice that this law is totally independent of the speed that you're going. IMO, that is a very smart move. There are some that say "I'm doing the speed limit, so I can stay in the left lane, since the other person is going too fast." Not so. What the other person is doing is none of your concern, and furthermore, unless you carry a badge, you do not have any legal right to slow or stop them. The realistic version of this is that if you refuse to move over, you are creating a more dangerous situation. It's all about dealing with reality, not the so-called perfect world situation.

I always try to move over as soon as possible, even if I might have slipped a few MPHs over the limit....
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:26 AM
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It's the law here. Slower traffic keep right. It does not matter what speed you are doing, if there is someone faster, you are legally required to move over. Period. And in the realistic world, that is a very good law. It is designed to prevent people from going ballistic when stuck behind a slower car, even if the slower car is doing over the speed limit.
Face it, someone that is driving 90 while the majority of people are doing 75, in heavy traffic, is a problem. This law makes it where he/she can just keep on going without causing a confrontation. It certainly beats making the impatient driver weave in and out of traffic.

Notice that this law is totally independent of the speed that you're going. IMO, that is a very smart move. There are some that say "I'm doing the speed limit, so I can stay in the left lane, since the other person is going too fast." Not so. What the other person is doing is none of your concern, and furthermore, unless you carry a badge, you do not have any legal right to slow or stop them. The realistic version of this is that if you refuse to move over, you are creating a more dangerous situation. It's all about dealing with reality, not the so-called perfect world situation.

I always try to move over as soon as possible, even if I might have slipped a few MPHs over the limit....
Amen to that, brother!
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It's the law here. Slower traffic keep right. It does not matter what speed you are doing, if there is someone faster, you are legally required to move over. Period. And in the realistic world, that is a very good law. It is designed to prevent people from going ballistic when stuck behind a slower car, even if the slower car is doing over the speed limit.
Face it, someone that is driving 90 while the majority of people are doing 75, in heavy traffic, is a problem. This law makes it where he/she can just keep on going without causing a confrontation. It certainly beats making the impatient driver weave in and out of traffic.

Notice that this law is totally independent of the speed that you're going. IMO, that is a very smart move. There are some that say "I'm doing the speed limit, so I can stay in the left lane, since the other person is going too fast." Not so. What the other person is doing is none of your concern, and furthermore, unless you carry a badge, you do not have any legal right to slow or stop them. The realistic version of this is that if you refuse to move over, you are creating a more dangerous situation. It's all about dealing with reality, not the so-called perfect world situation.

I always try to move over as soon as possible, even if I might have slipped a few MPHs over the limit....

Very well put.

Every drives different speeds, and for different reasons. I always assume that someone coming up on me fast, has a reason to be wanting to drive that fast, and it's up to me to honor that reason.

In New England there are some unwritten rules of the road. Below the speed limit is unacceptable, and in the left lane on the highway, absolutely unacceptable.

When riding someone's tail, it is your unwritten agreement..."If you promise to get to the right in short order to let me pass, I promise to go around you quickly and get out of your way." It is in reponse to too many situations where someone went right to allow a pass, the passing vehicle crept up, didn't really pass, but ultimately trapped the first car in the right lane.
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'54? Did they make them that early? I resto'd a '57 LD for a friend of mine. COOL scooter! I had an Li150 that I eBayed a few years ago -- I couldn't afford to restore it at the time. Wish I still had it. Also had a few Vespas -- a GT, a P150x (with a sidecar!), and a smallframe. I still have an LD parts carcass in the garage, which reminds me... I need to eBay the engine.

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Old 06-20-2007, 04:09 PM
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Before I figured out (with the help of this forum) that my rear axles needed to be replaced, the rear end would emit a noise after driving about 15 miles. The driver behind me definitely heard it too because I could see him in my rear view mirror getting further and further behind me even though I had slowed down. I thought about making a recording and setting up a speaker in my trunk.
The #5 injector blew its plug on the return line and was spewing diesel fuel. I discovered it after a car was tailgating me on the interstate at 70 MPH suddenly backed off as he switched on the w/s wipers. I thought that is odd, its a clear day? and at the same time I had been smelling raw diesel so I put two and two together and figured I had a leak. I pulled over and discovered the plug was gone so found a small screw and stuck it in and continued on my 200 mile journey. A while later another car came up behind me and I saw it too backed off and I saw a mist on my rear windshield, diesel was spurting again and I knew I had to fix it or else! so I found a better screw and cut some excess hose off the return line to the spin-on filter and replaced the end. I'd love to be able to throw a switch and have that on demand whenever some AH is tailgating me again!
I remember someone putting Citronella oil in a can and squirting it into his exhaust manifold, for "mosquito fogging" ha!
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:41 PM
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What if you saw an animal and had to slam on the brakes?
Well, you should just hit the brakes at that point. Same as you would if you were in a drive gear. The brakes don't stop working, if the car is in Neutral..
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:36 PM
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Very well put.

Every drives different speeds, and for different reasons. I always assume that someone coming up on me fast, has a reason to be wanting to drive that fast, and it's up to me to honor that reason.

In New England there are some unwritten rules of the road. Below the speed limit is unacceptable, and in the left lane on the highway, absolutely unacceptable.

When riding someone's tail, it is your unwritten agreement..."If you promise to get to the right in short order to let me pass, I promise to go around you quickly and get out of your way." It is in reponse to too many situations where someone went right to allow a pass, the passing vehicle crept up, didn't really pass, but ultimately trapped the first car in the right lane.
That drives me nuts, if someone wants to pass and I move over I hate it when they don't freaken pass. I'm like WTF I was moving in the left lane and you were riding me, now you don't want to pass. Now I'm stuck with the slow traffic and boxed in, moron's.
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Old 06-21-2007, 12:41 AM
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It's called speeding.

Some of the roads I travel are winding country roads with poor lines of sight. Plenty of times I see people walking or jogging. Or bicyclists. A few years back one of the neighbors was killed jogging. Presumably he was trying to keep healthy. I am responsible for the safe operation of my car, not the leadfoot behind me. So he isn't going to force me to drive his way, because as I've said I'm responsible for the safe operation of my car. I usually go about 5 miles above the speed limit, so I guess that makes me a slowpoke. Too bad. One day I looked in my rear view mirror and saw one car on my tail and a second car on his tail. Thinking perhaps there was some real urgency I managed to find a spot to pull over and let them both pass. As I cruised by the local beer joint there they both were just getting out of their cars. I guess it was some sort of *emergency* after all.
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:16 AM
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:39 AM
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:57 AM
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FWIW splitting lanes in CA is legal as long as traffic is stopped, doing it at 65 is plain stupid.

As to tailgaters, I've hucked a full can of soda out the sunroof, smashed their windshield. Specifically, we have a narrow bridge, so traffic has to merge from two to one lane, there is a street sign saying "take turns" as a reminder of how to merge. I was already committed to the merge (by a concrete barrier) when a little Mazda decided to speed up and attempt to cut me off, and failed to do so. Once past the bridge, the road widens. I stayed in the slow lane, so did they, honking and gesturing. I opened the sunroof, grabbed a new can of soda with a napkin and tossed the handful out the roof. They quit tailgating me (quit driving too).
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:07 AM
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I just give the trailer brake, hand lever, a good hard tug. It causes the brakes on the trailer to lock up, while the tractor brakes remain off. Just accellerate while doing it, and keep the trailer behind you, and pull the lever. The result is the trailer wheels locking up, and a fantastic smoke show, with no actual threat to anyone involved. The tractor will just drag the trailer for a second, with the wheels locked up.

The only downfall to this, is that if you do it often enough, you end up with flat spots on the trailer tires, and it makes funky noises. Every time you do it, they lock up on the exact same spot on the trailer tires. Pretty cool, especially when pulling someone else's trailer to begin with....LOL
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:18 AM
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It's the law here. Slower traffic keep right. It does not matter what speed you are doing, if there is someone faster, you are legally required to move over. Period. And in the realistic world, that is a very good law. It is designed to prevent people from going ballistic when stuck behind a slower car, even if the slower car is doing over the speed limit.
Face it, someone that is driving 90 while the majority of people are doing 75, in heavy traffic, is a problem. This law makes it where he/she can just keep on going without causing a confrontation. It certainly beats making the impatient driver weave in and out of traffic.

Notice that this law is totally independent of the speed that you're going. IMO, that is a very smart move. There are some that say "I'm doing the speed limit, so I can stay in the left lane, since the other person is going too fast." Not so. What the other person is doing is none of your concern, and furthermore, unless you carry a badge, you do not have any legal right to slow or stop them. The realistic version of this is that if you refuse to move over, you are creating a more dangerous situation. It's all about dealing with reality, not the so-called perfect world situation.

I always try to move over as soon as possible, even if I might have slipped a few MPHs over the limit....


If I'm on a 2 lane road and you tailgate me while driving the posted limit, you might be the next person getting a piece of a dead 'gator (broken truck tire tread) in your radiator. YES! it really happened. I tried to dodge it and the sorority girl called her uncle the deputy. Long story short - she got a lesson 'road hazard damage.'

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