Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-21-2007, 09:46 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 195
Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor

I have put a few pictures of my new 300cd and I have included some of the car with my donor engine (an 80-300D with a bad tranny).

I know this might sound stupid, but is there any way that the 80-300D is a turbo? The air intake of the motor looks like the turbo set up in my 84-300D. The 80-300D air intake is totally different from the 79-300CD (which is very obviously not a turbo).

So, the pictures are not that good, but more will be coming as I change the motor from the 80 to the 79.

Thanks, Don

Attached Thumbnails
Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0106.jpg   Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0110.jpg   Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0111.jpg   Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0105.jpg   Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0112.jpg  

__________________
84-300D 256K
81-300SD 217K (Wife's)
79-300CD 212K - Project
89-Volvo 245 305K
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-21-2007, 09:55 PM
bgkast's Avatar
Rollin' on 16s
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Vancouver WA
Posts: 6,528
If that air cleaner picture you posted is on the engine in question it IS a turbo engine.

That donor car looks nice...seems a shame to part it out.

if it does get parted can I have the hubcaps?
__________________
1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-22-2007, 10:45 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 195
Well, that is what I thought, but the PO said that it definitely was not a turbo so I was not going to argue with him. But that brings up the switching of motors and what I will have to move on the 79.

Any advice will be appreciated!

I have posted a photo of the current motor of the 79-300CD and more will be coming this weekend.

The donor is OK, but has some rust. I am keeping the hubcaps. However, I will list anything I don't keep.
Attached Thumbnails
Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-79-300cd-current-motor.jpg  
__________________
84-300D 256K
81-300SD 217K (Wife's)
79-300CD 212K - Project
89-Volvo 245 305K
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-22-2007, 10:59 AM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,389
that looks to be a euro... except for the bumpers... hmmm notice the vac discharge and crankcase lines going to the turbo U tube, perhaps it's from a SD 116? do you have a better picture of the engine? there is no EGR stuff, on the intake. I would like to see the oil filter can. before you part out that car, get some more info on it. do a russian web vin lookup. it may be worth something for it's oddity...
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-22-2007, 11:00 AM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,389
the hubbies are off of a different car. the paint is the wrong color. or is that just in the pic? they look pastel blue, and the car looks dark silver. I want more pics and info on that D!
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-22-2007, 11:11 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 195
OK, I will put a few more pictures of the 80-D when I get home today. I figured the hubcaps were not original, but I am going to paint them for the CD.

The 80-D looks OK at a distance, but has been opened at the steering column, etc..

But, is it a turbo, then for sure?

Will it go in the 79 body?

Thanks, Don
__________________
84-300D 256K
81-300SD 217K (Wife's)
79-300CD 212K - Project
89-Volvo 245 305K
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-22-2007, 11:15 AM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,389
absolutely positively a turbo. you can see the turbo in the picture! it is a old motor, due to the vac pump exhaust tube and such, so it should drop right into your CD. BUT I WANT PICS FIRST!@! that, if it is original engine to that car has to be a gray market import, or a VERY special order car.
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-22-2007, 11:32 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 195
Cool... I will send a bunch more pictures this evening. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "russian web vin lookup"? I tried several vin lookups but they won't work with the short vin from the 80-D.

Thanks again.
__________________
84-300D 256K
81-300SD 217K (Wife's)
79-300CD 212K - Project
89-Volvo 245 305K
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-22-2007, 11:34 AM
NC Benz's Avatar
Certified Thread Highjack
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Posts: 485
Quote:
Originally Posted by dazsa View Post
Cool... I will send a bunch more pictures this evening. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "russian web vin lookup"? I tried several vin lookups but they won't work with the short vin from the 80-D.

Thanks again.
Dont forget the first 4 number that are not "printed" for the VIN.
__________________
NC Benz
Fuquay-Varina, NC
1979 300D
1983 300D Turbo 260,000 Miles
1984 300D Turbo 345,000 Miles (sons car)
OBK #31
1998 Ford Expedition 5.4l (fer Haulin'!) 145,000
1973 19' SeaRay with 115 Mercury TOWER OF POWER!
Club Car Golf Cart 36V
Ex toys:
1967 Mustang 289 (First Car)
Fiat 124TC
1975 Honda CVCC
1980 Audi 5000 Turbo
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-22-2007, 11:38 AM
Admiral-Third World Fleet
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Central FL
Posts: 3,068
there were no grey market imports of turbo cars- they were only built for the US market. That has to be a put together car- looks like an early W116 OM617 engine with that aircleaner setup.

Rick
__________________
80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-22-2007, 11:50 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 195
OK...I found the russian web vin lookup. I will have to get the first 4 numbers from the car, I guess, this afternoon.

Tell me about the W116 OM617 engine... what years were they made?
__________________
84-300D 256K
81-300SD 217K (Wife's)
79-300CD 212K - Project
89-Volvo 245 305K
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-22-2007, 12:02 PM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,389
http://www.w116.org/
In May 1978 the model 300SD was introduced to the USA and Canadian markets. The new S-Class model - for the first time in the history of this vehicle category - was driven by a diesel engine. The 3.0 L 5 cylinder, which had proven so well in the types 240D 3.0 and 300D, was fitted with a turbocharger. The development of this unusual S-Class variant had been started with the goal to fulfil the lower consumption figures introduced by the US-government.
1980 was the last year in the 116 bodystyle.
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-22-2007, 02:28 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 195
New Pics of the 80D

Here are several more pictures of the 80-300D

Please give me input on the motor. Thanks!
Attached Thumbnails
Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0113.jpg   Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0115.jpg   Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0116.jpg   Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0117.jpg   Pictures of the 79-300CD and donor-hpim0118.jpg  

__________________
84-300D 256K
81-300SD 217K (Wife's)
79-300CD 212K - Project
89-Volvo 245 305K
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-22-2007, 02:32 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 195
I just ran the vin number of the supposedly 1980 300D and the vin came back as a 1976 MB gasser...but that cannot be. The dash and everything is diesel...hmmm.

I will try several other vin places.
__________________
84-300D 256K
81-300SD 217K (Wife's)
79-300CD 212K - Project
89-Volvo 245 305K
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-22-2007, 02:34 PM
NC Benz's Avatar
Certified Thread Highjack
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Posts: 485
Quote:
Originally Posted by dazsa View Post
I just ran the vin number of the supposedly 1980 300D and the vin came back as a 1976 MB gasser...but that cannot be. The dash and everything is diesel...hmmm.

I will try several other vin places.

Theres a VIN on the engine block I believe

__________________
NC Benz
Fuquay-Varina, NC
1979 300D
1983 300D Turbo 260,000 Miles
1984 300D Turbo 345,000 Miles (sons car)
OBK #31
1998 Ford Expedition 5.4l (fer Haulin'!) 145,000
1973 19' SeaRay with 115 Mercury TOWER OF POWER!
Club Car Golf Cart 36V
Ex toys:
1967 Mustang 289 (First Car)
Fiat 124TC
1975 Honda CVCC
1980 Audi 5000 Turbo
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page