gas dosnt contain enough lube.


it's a solvent; Diesel is an oil (one of the many reasons why diesel run for longer)


you'd fry your IP - at minimum an $800 repair.

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I filled my dodge truck with gas once and drove about three miles home. By the time I got there I had figured it out. I knew something was up almost as soon as I pulled away from the pump. It was a place I buy fuel all the time and i filled from the opposite side of the pump and took the wrong nozzle and filled it.

It ran fairly ok at idle with a bit more rattle. When you put the pedal down it rattled a lot and lacked power.

I drained the tank and filled with diesel and it seems fine. I have driven about 30K since.

I don't recommend it.

My #3 lovely daughter filled my fully refurbished 74 240d with gas in Colombus OH and headed for home. She got a little past Richmond In before the car would not go any more. It got hot, cracked the head and scored the cylinder walls, iirc.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Lets ask myth busters to do it. They can use the MB that was converted into a speaker !!

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1984 300d
1999 Prelude
Medici road bike
Klein touring bike
Klein mtn bike

I was cruising AutoTrader once, looking for MB Diesel, and found a 123 in Texas that looked beautiful, for sale cheap -- a young man had borrowed his grandmother's car, and thoughtfully filled the tank - with gas - before he brought it back. I forget the exact description of symptoms, but it ruined the engine.

The rest of the car was for sale ... no extra charge for the boat anchor under the hood.

There is an oil company site (Citgo??) with a lot of diesel info that is quoted on here from time to time. It says that even a small amount of gas in a diesel tank lowers the Cetane count to the point where one might get damage. Since MB recommends some gas in extremely cold weather, I'm not sure what low ambient temp does to keep the engine from harm. Prevent overheating?

Thanks 777. A voice of reason instead of sheer guessing with gloom and doom added.

I have seen many diesels, including my own, filled with gasoline by accident. They don't blow up, they aren't ruined, and they don't put out much power while making a very loud racket. Heat goes up and they barely run down a city street.

You drain the tank and replace the gasoline with diesel. It happens to boats too.

Who are you trying to BS Don? That guy didn't pay for a "ruined" engine.

How about sticking to first hand information.

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1984 300D
1985 300CD
1980 300SD
1993 SL500

as some would say, you have a very creative imagination

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1987 300TD, 1987 300TD
2008 R32, 2000 Passat Wagon

lets get a chemist in here diesels run fine on kerosene does one gal of gas to 5 gallons of diesel make kerosene?
On the boat once we pumped 100 gallons of gas into the 1000 gal tank before we realized it topped it off with diesel never noticed a thing

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commercial fisherman diesel in my blood in my boats trucks and Dear old Dad has had me drivin them since i got my first license in 1968
1986 300 SDL 427654
1999 Chevy Crew Cab Dually 225423
1986 300 SDL 287000 Dad's
1987 190 Turbo 158000 Mom's (my inheritance)

I have never done this, but back when I was a Bosch Tech (1998) I got to rebuild several Injection Pumps from the Dodge Cummins.

The pump elements (plunger/barrel assemblies) seize up due to the lack of lubricity in Gasoline.....

Any warranty from Dodge/Cummins/Bosch is void....

This usually happened when the wife of the truck owner used the truck and decided to do them a favor and fill them up.....I never knew the percentages of the mix, but the odor of Gasoline inside of the pump is sufficient to void the warranty....

SB

Another big NO NO is don;t run out of fuel if at all possible....although it doesn't immediately void the warranty, it can cause similar damage due to the starving of a couple of the pump elements......they are metal to metal, with extremely close tolerances.....

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Diesels:
'85 300D, "Max, Blue Benz", 155K, 27.0 MPG
'84 190D 2.2, "Eva, Brown Benz", 142K, 40.2 MPG
'77 240D (parts car)
'67 Eicher ES 202 Tractor "Otto" (2cyl, Air Cooled, 30HP)
Gassers:
'94 Ford F-150, "Henry", 170K (300 Six) 17.5 MPG
'85 190E 2.3, 148K....Parts Car
'58 Dodge W300M Powerwagon (Flat Fenders) Less than 10 MPG

Here's a timely story...I cannot ever remember this happening at any station before:

Drivers Fill Up With Wrong Fuel After Delivery Mix-Up
Company Says It Will Pay For Repairs To Damaged Vehicles

POSTED: 6:13 pm EDT June 22, 2007

EPPING, N.H. -- Dozens of drivers who filled up at an Epping gas station over the weekend filled their tanks with diesel fuel instead of unleaded gas because of a delivery error, gas station officials said.

The station said that about 30 people filled up at a Getty Station on Route 125 on Saturday. Earlier that morning, a delivery driver mistakenly filled the unleaded tank with diesel and the diesel tank with unleaded. "We started receiving reports of people's cars malfunctioning after they fueled up," Epping Police Officer Michael Wallace said.

Driver Gary Moran said that his car started having problems soon after he filled the tank.

"The car made it to the house a mile and half away and sputtered in the driveway, and then it never ran again," Moran said.

Some customers reported engines knocking, while others said the car stopped moving altogether.

"We bought a new car because we didn't want any problems," Moran said. "We even bought a seven-year bumper-to-bumper package with it because we didn't want these problems, but here we are."

Moran's car had to be towed and overhauled, with a new gas tank, fuel pump and other repairs.

A Getty spokesman called the problem an "unfortunate accident," and the company promised to take care of repair costs in full. Some customers said they were satisfied with the company's actions, saying that mistakes happen.

"I come here all the time, and they're usually very good, and if something happened, it was an accident," customer Barbara MacDonald said.

The company said that when the station realized there was a problem, it shut down the pumps and flushed the tanks and lines.

Those who believe they filled their tanks with the wrong gas can call the Getty help line at 401-434-1322, ext. 253.

Here's a link to a video:

www.wmur.com/video/13555380/index.html?taf=man

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2013 C300 4Matic
1984 BMW 733i
2013 Lincoln MKz

talked about gas in a diesel with a former shelby shop guy who knows his stuff
he feared leaking injectors causing knock/kick back from burning gas before TDC
is reached that could hurt the motor

Hm, my dad said he ran 3/4 of a tank of gasoline through his old Peugot diesel, though I have a hard time believing it didn't hurt anything as he says.

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1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi

About 20 or so years ago I went to look at a 1977 300D I had heard about that was for sale at a very good price. It had about 195,000 miles on it and ran pretty well, especially at around 80 mph.

Then the owner told me someone had put gas in it though, one time, and when the gas tank was being drained, the gasoline caught fire, and damaged the car somewhat, but things had been fixed.

I knew nothing about Mercedes, diesels, or repairing them, but I really didnt want to take a chance on a car that had been in a fire so I didn't buy it.....

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

My friend had an 01 Jetta TDI that he let a friend borrow once for a few days (it was his spare car) and when it came back....., his friend told him what had happen. No problem he though, and let the jetta idle all the Gas out. He said it ran like crap, but after it was 3/4 of the way gone, he filled it up with diesel and it was fine

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1983 Euro 240D 277K
2016 Mazda 6
Coming Soon, 2013 Mercedes E350 Bluetec
Formers:
2012- Mazda 3
2007 Outlander- complete pile
1995 E300 Diesel 208K
2007 VW Passat 2.0T 63K SOLD
2003 Jaguar X-type 3.0 Sport Sold 04/11 w/88K
2009 Lexus RX350 9061 miles. Sold 04/09
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS:Totaled Sept.,09 @ 24,000
2003 Infiniti I35 58K Sold
1984 300 turbo diesel 222K

Moran's car had to be towed and overhauled, with a new gas tank, fuel pump and other repairs.

The Getty story sounds like a load of hooey -- certainly overkill. In the late 60's a friend of mine trying to do me a favor filled my '58 Chrysler New Yorker (with the 392 Hemi -- woo woo!) with diesel from a farm tank, thinking it was high - test gas. The ratio would have been about 15/7 diesel to gas. I got it home, about 20 miles, though it ran poorly. The next day I was able to get it going (stalled every time I put it in to gear), drove about 10 miles to a gas station, where we drained the tank & filled it up with gas. We replaced nothing. The next time I ran it hard (that car would fly), there was a big cloud of smoke, but I never had any problems with it traceable to fuel.

In the 90's my father in law, in his dotage, absent-mindedly filled his '78 Chrysler - 400 engine, I think - with diesel. We drained the tank, filled it with gas, had no problems. Are modern fuel-injection systems so fragile that the Getty story might really cause problems, or was the mechanic taking advantage of the situation (Like I think he was) ?

You would at the very least blow the IP, although if you were persistant in running it burning a hole or two in a piston is certainly possible.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200