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cchkaiban 06-24-2007 03:05 PM

What is this for?
 
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ForcedInduction 06-24-2007 03:09 PM

Rack damper. It helps smooth the idle.

Shorebilly 06-24-2007 04:37 PM

Whatever you want to call it......
 
it adjusts the pressure on the end of the speeder spring.....which in turn holds the flyweights in check......it may be called a "rack dampener" here.....but it will in fact set the range that the governor governs in.......increasing (turning the screw in) compression on that spring will increase the idle speed as well as the top end speed.....and decreasing the compression (backing screw out) on that spring could cause some of the linkages and pivot points to come out of alignment....especially if there is a bit of wear within the pump governor.....

SB

ForcedInduction 06-24-2007 04:44 PM

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It's just a pin. The fuel rack rests against it at idle, it does not contact anything else in the pump or have a spring on it (Only inside of it).

PanzerSD 06-24-2007 06:30 PM

I have the old silver styled ones, can I play with adjustment to try to smooth out my idle? I'm not keen on paying $70 for a little pin like that.

Stevo 06-24-2007 09:44 PM

Why dont the 616 engines have a rack damper? Its fine with me tho, one less thing to "tweek":D

turbo240 06-24-2007 10:14 PM

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You can also adjust these. While the engine is running loosen the two 13 mm nuts and rotate clockwise or counter clockwise using I think a 15mm wrench where the injector line hooks up on each one until the idle smooths out. Do one at a time. Attachment 45383

pawoSD 06-25-2007 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevo (Post 1545323)
Why dont the 616 engines have a rack damper? Its fine with me tho, one less thing to "tweek":D

I think its because the 4cylinder engines are naturally balanced, and don't need to have something to prevent the "shaking" that a 5cylinder engine can have at idle due to the inherent off balance engine configuration. At higher speeds the flywheel/crank pulley balanced weight eliminates this. At least I think thats how it works.

ForcedInduction 06-25-2007 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo240 (Post 1545353)
You can also adjust these. While the engine is running loosen the two 13 mm nuts and rotate clockwise or counter clockwise using I think a 15mm wrench where the injector line hooks up on each one until the idle smooths out. Do one at a time.

That is strongly NOT recommended. They are very sensitive to adjustment and if they get out of calibration the entire IP will have to be reset on a test bench.

ray m 06-25-2007 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1545046)
Rack damper. It helps smooth the idle.

If it helps smooth the idle can it be adjusted safely and how would you recommend doing this.

Is this what you can do by adjusting it.
Will it work on a 82 240 manual shift giving it a little more pep.

".increasing (turning the screw in) compression on that spring will increase the idle speed as well as the top end speed.....and decreasing the compression (backing screw out) on that spring could cause some of the linkages and pivot points to come out of alignment....especially if there is a bit of wear within the pump governor".....
Thanks RAY M

toomany MBZ 06-25-2007 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PanzerSD (Post 1545180)
I have the old silver styled ones, can I play with adjustment to try to smooth out my idle? I'm not keen on paying $70 for a little pin like that.

Yours can be adjusted, yet the spring inside fatigues over time. You can get a new one for about $50. I understand on turbos only.

ForcedInduction 06-25-2007 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ray m (Post 1545510)
If it helps smooth the idle can it be adjusted safely and how would you recommend doing this.

Is this what you can do by adjusting it.
Will it work on a 82 240 manual shift giving it a little more pep.

Only the turbo 300D's have a rack damper. Adjusting it will only give a smoother idle, it won't affect the engine above that speed.

Stevo 06-25-2007 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 1545490)
I think its because the 4cylinder engines are naturally balanced, and don't need to have something to prevent the "shaking" that a 5cylinder engine can have at idle due to the inherent off balance engine configuration. At higher speeds the flywheel/crank pulley balanced weight eliminates this. At least I think thats how it works.

Yah, that makes sense too me. Thanks

ray m 06-25-2007 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1545521)
Only the turbo 300D's have a rack damper. Adjusting it will only give a smoother idle, it won't affect the engine above that speed.

Thanks RAY M

Cervan 06-26-2007 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevo (Post 1545323)
Why dont the 616 engines have a rack damper? Its fine with me tho, one less thing to "tweek":D

the 616 engine is a 4cylinder engine it does not require one. only because of the odd cylidner does it require it.


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