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Whiskeydan 07-30-2007 09:00 AM

I would suspect the heavier battery would have the most capacity. Battery plate surface area is a big part of what determines AH ratings. Larger plates would have to weigh more.
Also, go for the most recent manufacture date. I couple of yrs ago I was at Wal Mart and watched a customer return a battery. It was the top of the line wal mart batt. A knowlegeable employee used a device that measures the battery's internal resistance to check its condition. It gives a relative value of "cranking amps" and sure enough, the returned battery was not up to snuff.
He checked the new one, no good at meeting its spec. Another new top of the line battery also didn't measure up. As I watched I ask if he would check the cheap $29 battery. Several of them all measured up to spec. They also had more recent manufacture dates. I concluded the more expensive ones stay on the shelf longer, cheaper ones turn quickly. Who knows...

I'd go find a fresh "Interstate". They have always performed well.

Richard Eldridge 07-30-2007 10:12 AM

A cheapo solution
 
A local battery rehab place, Battery Nation in Miami on NW 27th Ave just north of 135th St., sells Varta, Interstate, and other fancy brands of rebuild batteries in Mercedes sizes at $29 each. I started using them when I had a Hyundai Excel that tended to eat batteries (this stopped when I added a second cable between the battery and the alternator).

A new Interstate for a MB costs over $90. My experience is that of four rehab batteries, all have lasted within a few months of a new Interstate and one exceeded it by a year. None have leaked. This place will check the alt and battery for free, and will not lie about how you need that new battery if you don't. Honesty of the sort that DieHard has not had for decades.

RichC 07-30-2007 10:41 AM

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Anybody have any experience with those anti sulfiding, and balance charge, battery chargers ?

Thank You
RichC
:joker:
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tangofox007 07-30-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by daw_two (Post 1577554)
Good testimony!

So, WHAT is that number??? I've heard about this service, but haven't seen the number.

1-800-FOR MERCEDES (800-222-0100)
Frequently displayed on a decal inside the glove box door.

Quote:

Originally Posted by daw_two (Post 1577554)
Also, is the service dispatched via some other roadside service or does MB have their own contractors?

Both. The dealers have an roadside assistance vehicle. Or they use a contractor if a dealer is not convenient.

Whiskeydan 07-30-2007 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC (Post 1577706)
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Anybody have any experience with those anti sulfiding, and balance charge, battery chargers ?

Thank You
RichC
:joker:
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Rich, We did some research on those things. A good friend of mine has done some test and I think his results are on the web somewhere. I'll look.

Some of the best car batteries I've ever had came from a rehab guy. "The Battery Man" in Dallas. I think he had to close due to local zoning or something...
I had a few of his $24 batts last more than six yrs. Wish he was still around.


Here we go...

Introduction - Battery Desulfation

http://www.dallas.net/~jvpoll/Battery/aaDesulfatorSurvey.html

Jim has a nice 84 white 500SEL I bet he would let go cheap. It just sits in his garage. Been there for 10yrs I bet. I believe its battery was the DUT.

CamelotShadow 09-18-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 1577429)
MB Battery, delivered via roadside assistance - $142.90 (2yr full warranty...1000CCA's, Made in Spain)

Knowing you can call the number in the your glovebox when stranded at night in the middle of Florence, KY on a Saturday night at 9pm while on the way back from Florida in the middle of March? - Priceless :D (ok its a bit long... ;) )

Thats where I got my battery....my 1.7 year old DieHard International gave up on me, but it was mainly my alternator's fault....I later replaced a very very worn out 55A alternator with a nice new 65A rebuild. HUGE power output difference. :D

I had a MB tech helping me at a shell station in the dark in less than an hour after I called. For free. How awesome is that??? This was this past march.


Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by daw_two http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...s/viewpost.gif
Good testimony!

So, WHAT is that number??? I've heard about this service, but haven't seen the number.

1-800-FOR MERCEDES (800-222-0100)
Frequently displayed on a decal inside the glove box door.

Quote:
Originally Posted by daw_two http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...s/viewpost.gif
Also, is the service dispatched via some other roadside service or does MB have their own contractors?

Both. The dealers have an roadside assistance vehicle. Or they use a contractor if a dealer is not convenient.
Been thinking about calling the 1800 For Mercedes
My battery died luckily its in tha garage.

My only question is I heard they dislike servicing the Euro models.

Also my 2 yo Diehard battery is a INTERNATIONAL
its down becasue the car was not used much in the 2 years.
I charged it once but only got it half charged
Not even sure if it will take a full charge anymore
It might but this having the battery problem is a real pain

Wondering what is different on a international battery & thinking they may not have one easily available...

Any ideas?

Seems like a good way to buy a battery especially if you need it...

Price seems fair too

123Guy 09-18-2007 12:39 PM

The best battery for a diesel MB is the top of the line Group 49 Interstate battery. It's got 850 cranking amps and most of the others, including the Die Hard are around 750 and sometimes less.

Ken300D 09-18-2007 01:54 PM

My diesels all have the same full-size battery that completely fills the battery tray. Among the cars that I've had, there were Interstate, Die-Hard, and Autolite.

The Group 49 battery is a little smaller isn't it? Is there a "group" number for the full-size battery?

Ken300D

vstech 09-18-2007 01:56 PM

I only know about the Group 41 (shorter and about 20% smaller) and the Group 49. OE is G49.

123Guy 09-18-2007 03:06 PM

The Group 49 battery is a little smaller isn't it? Is there a "group" number for the full-size battery?
Ken300D[/quote]

The Interstate Group 49 and Group 93 batteries are the same dimensions. - they are the big batteries. The Mega-Tron Plus is 850 Amps and has an 85 month warranty. I used to use Die Hard but they stopped making the big battery for awhile and now their Group 49 is only 805 Amps and they list for $129 - the Mega-Tron Plus is about $15 less.

oldiesel 09-18-2007 07:53 PM

i recently had to replace the battery in my 91 300D had an interstate in it 4 yrs old.I went to Autozone and bought their Duralast i cant say anything about the inside of the battery but for what its worth the outside is exactly the same as the one i took out except for the color.Could be they are made by the same factory,One thing i do like about it is that it has removable caps so i can add distilled water when needed,i really believe this adds to the batterys life in hot climates. My $.02 Don

Da Hawaiian 09-18-2007 09:00 PM

I have used that MB service as well..no matter how many owners, still FREE for you..My Battery is from Oreilly's auto parts. 75.00 950 cranking....

Dakota

C Sean Watts 09-19-2007 10:13 PM

Since you are in the South..
 
See if there are any Douglass battery dealers in ATL. They've stayed independent as a company for many years and they're known for fork lift and equipment batteries. I've used them and never had any complaints.

alamostation 09-22-2007 07:56 AM

Interstate absolutely sucks - avoid like the plague!
 
When I bought my 300SD (Guderian) in San Antonio, I was living in Abilene TX. The car came with a brand new Interstate battery. After two weeks the starter would barely turn. I tested the starter, it was fine. Charged the battery for two hours on high on a Snap-on charger, swapped it into a Suburban, the Suburban wouldn't start

I took the battery to the Interstate dealer in Abilene, Texas. They said they charged it and tested it and said it was fine. Went back home, put in the Interstate battery, Guderian wouldn't start. I jump started the car with the Interstate in it and went back to the Interstate dealer. Defied them to start it on the Interstate battery. It didn't. Swapped in the Suburban's battery that I had in the trunk, it fired up immediately. After 45 minutes of charge on the Interstate, they put it in and the 300SD wouldn't start. They told me it was a problem with starter, but as an act of good faith, they would credit me 25% on a new battery, so I would only have to pay $105.00 for a new one. Yeah right.

I went to O'Reilly's, got a new battery for $69. Guderian started right up. Took the car back to Interstate and showed them how it started immediately. Asked for the $105 refund. You can guess the answer. "You must have changed the starter." Pointed out the starter had the same 20 years of dirt that the rest of the engine did. "It's not our problem." No refund, no replacement, just the claim that their battery was still good because their test said it was.

Four years later the O'Reilly battery still holds a charge better than I would ever expect. Like six weeks between start-ups.

The funny thing is, I recently read an article about how Interstate is run by devout Christians who want to bend over backwards to serve their cusomers. Like Aich Ee Double toothpicks. The biggest bunch of lying jerks I've ever dealt with in the automotive world. I wouldn't buy an Interstate battery if they were a penny apiece. On second thought, I might buy them for metal value.

Racekar 09-22-2007 09:31 AM

While we are on the topic of batteries I just checked mine (low on water) and I noticed there is no hose connected to the overflow. The PO replaced the battery before I bought the car and I guess they never replaced the hose. My battery has the vent facing the front of the car. There is no hose, I can put one on but where do you route it? I already saw some water/acid driping out right on to the hold down plate.


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