http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9712548-7.html

I might buy one in 2010

+1

my boycott of new vehicles maybe lifted with this one-been waiting for it

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Brian

82 300d turbo 164k - passed on
83 sd - passed on
04 civic hybrid - DD
06 GTO for sale - passed on
84 VW Rabbit Diesel 4dr.- passed on
94 S350D - DD
94 S320 - soon to be DD

They keep rumoring a diesel Honda Odyssey within the next year or so. Of course that's been the rumor for several years now so I'm not holding my breath. I know for you young 'uns a diesel minivan isn't high on the cool list, but if I could get my wife in a diesel Odyssey tomorrow it wouldn't be too soon.

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1980 300TD-China Blue/Blue MBTex-2nd Owner, 107K (Alt Blau) OBK #15
'06 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (for the wife & 4 kids, current mule) '03 Honda Odyssey (son #1's ride, reluctantly) '99 GMC Suburban (255K+ miles, semi-retired mule) 21' SeaRay Seville (summer escape pod)

this is great, Honda is going to introduce a vehicle that get 62 or whatever MPG. after reading the comments on the site THE DON posted
this technology is already out there and being driven in other parts of the
world.
I remember when Dics brakes were the rage. It was like Detroit had just
discovered sliced bread. these things had been used in europe long ago
and also used on airplanes. It`s just marketing to get their hands deeper
in our pockets.
Mercedes had the first production Diesel in their cars. then Detroit tried
to get on the board with their wondeful diesel, the 350 etc...
but the train was moving too fast.
so now we go from 30mpg to 60mpg and think we are going to save money. If we are paying $3.00 a gallon now, don`t you think the oil co.
will double the cost to $6.00 to keep the profit margin in their already
overflowing bank accounts?
I think I`ll just keep driving my stinky old 300D for a while longer .
charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

well I like new things.. and buying new things..

I'm a little skeptical about the mileage. Also I'd be very surprised if Honda approved of high biodiesel blends given the high injection pressures that are surely part of the design. Still, I'm definitely gonna check out the Honda diesel when it comes out. It might be a very worthy replacement of my TDI.

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2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

Maybe they will have their own forum.

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Sam

84 300SD 350K+ miles ( Blue Belle )

Let's hope their prediction that the Jeep and the GL-class being the last non-california cars are a little bit exaggerated... I'm all for the environment but diesels are supposed to smell good

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

I remember several years ago reading a statement from Honda that claimed that they would 'never launch a diesel in North America. I am glad that they retracted that statement.

Whether you like or dislike Honda they have always been good at making a high quality product that keeps customers returning. I believe that when Honda's diesel models arrive they will change the diesel mindset in this country. This will leave Ford and GM with their jaws hanging on the floor trying to figure out what to do. I believe that this is where DCX messed up in pushing off Chrysler. The PT Cruiser and Chrysler mini van are already sold in Europe with engines from an Italian company that is part M-B owned. I am certain that these engines would need changes to meet the US emissions, but they ready had the base product all packaged up.

Also, I saw an article about the new M-B C-Class. I agreed with the author for giving M-B the 'what-for' for not offering a diesel in this new body. M-B also needs to drop this big bling image in the US and sell the B-Class diesel here as well as offer the diesel in the SMARTCAR.

It frustrates me that a company with no prior diesel experience at all (Honda) believes that diesels are the next big step in fuel efficiency while a company with decades of diesel experience (DCX/M-B) does relatively little. If you don't think that Honda has a hope selling a diesel in the US consider this how many times has Honda done something new and failed?

Watch the hybrids die fast. Toyota may be in for a shock.

It boggles my mind ( not a difficult task ) that MB gave up on entry level diesels. Early on in their history in the US, the 190, 200, 220 and 240D were the lowest priced MBs in the line. Then they gravitated up to the S Cla$$ and now only in the E Class. It seems to me that someone oriented to the economy that a diesel offers would likewise be oriented to a le$$ expen$ive model as well. I would have thought that the C class would be a natural for the diesel. Oh well................. Ma Benz (thinks she) knows better.


BTW: I rode in a 220CDI in Israel a year ago and, let me tell ya, that sonofagun would flat RUN! Very snappy and un-diesel-like acceleration.

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62 220sb
67 250S
72 280SE 4.5
74 280C
77 300D
82 240D
85 190E 2.3
86 300E RIP 12/28/09
85 300SD
92 300D 2.5
00 E320 Current
Over 1,000,000 miles in Benzes, Since66

....and a whole passel of BMW 2002 and Tii

I won't buy one. Too many emissions controls choking it's potential.

I Imagine that you either will have to be a rocket scientist or maybe just have the tools of one availble to work on it. It will probably need an adjustment made for every 100 feet in altitude gained or maybe if the barometric pressure changes. Count me out.

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83 300D
79 Chevy P/U
87 Honda CRXsi
82 Honda Gl1100

I think that's a bunch of boloney. Like the rest of the newer diesels, this car should be nearly maintenance-free, i.e. nothing to adjust other than tire pressure and doing the occasional oil change. The question is, will all the new emission equipment work reliably. Skipping the first model year might be a good idea.

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2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

we have these fancy boxes now called ECU's and ECM's that do all of that ... they send like pulses of information down a copper wire to an actuator... pretty sci fi if you ask me




also.. go to your usercp and add that info about your cars into your signature

I have had to replace the ECU 5 times on my crx, I hope that Honda has come up with a more reliable one.