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Old 12-16-2007, 09:19 PM
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In order to shock them out of this, I have stopped changing my oil in my 300D in an attempt to convince them.
Your actions have convinced us of one thing, and not changing our oil is not it.
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:23 PM
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Forced,

But my car is still doing fine. How long does it have to run before you reconsider your position?

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Old 12-16-2007, 09:27 PM
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I'm still waiting to see some oil analysis to back up your claim. I offered to give you a test kit for FREE on multiple occasions and you refused each time.

You will never convince anyone with a shred of common sense to stop changing their oil. It should be obvious to everyone that it is sheer engine abuse to do so. All oils break down from thermal stress, physical stress and contamination, there is no oil in existence that can withstand forever what goes on inside a car engine.

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Old 12-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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At first, I accepted but was banned. Funny how that little coincidence occurred.

But now I've decided against it because it's a red herring. You'll get the sample and find something not perfect with the oil and have a cow over it.

My test is pure. How long will the car go? No arguing over the sample results.

So give me a number. Today....like now would be good. 30,000? 50,000? 100,000 miles? You pick.

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Old 12-16-2007, 09:40 PM
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At first, I accepted but was banned. Funny how that little coincidence occurred.
That was 100% your own fault.

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But now I've decided against it because it's a red herring. You'll get the sample and find something not perfect with the oil and have a cow over it.
You decided not to do it because you are afraid you would find high soot or wear metal contamination. If something is not perfect on a test, it needs to be determined WHY to prevent engine damage.

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My test is pure. How long will the car go? No arguing over the sample results.
Your test is anecdotal uselessness. You have no scientific process, no pretest engine teardown, no oil analysis, no verification/repeatability of your test, no documentation of your progress or anything else beyond "I'm right, you're wrong and my car is just running fine."

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So give me a number. Today....like now would be good. 30,000? 50,000? 100,000 miles? You pick.
None. Anything beyond 5,000dino/10,000syn is abuse and neglect, plain and simple.
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:44 PM
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Forced, you've got to quit quoting him, you're screwing up my game of "name that troll." It's only fun to guess If I don't see what specific nonsense you're responding to.

Sometimes you have to make your own fun.
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:47 PM
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I'm sorry Craig. I just can't let him get away with attempting to convince people to abuse their engine. What good is a forum if people are posting bad/damaging advice?
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:48 PM
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No, you completely missed what I was asking, and now you're trying to evade the question.

How long will my car go with no more oil changes?

It's a simple question. If you're so convinced that going beyond 10kmiles with synthetic is bad for my engine, you expect my engine to fail? Correct?

So will it fail at 20Kmiles? 50kmiles? 100kmiles? 1,000kmiles? Just give me a number. There's no right answer. I just want your opinion as to how long it will go with only 1 filter change per year and topoff oil.

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Old 12-16-2007, 09:52 PM
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I'm sorry Craig. I just can't let him get away with attempting to convince people to abuse their engine. What good is a forum if people are posting bad/damaging advice?
Just kidding.

You have to understand how the game works. First you put him on your ignore list, then you let the other sane people respond to his rants, finally you try to guess the nature of his current delusion. Very entertaining, without the aggravation of actually having to read his drivel. Give it a try sometime.
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:57 PM
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Just for you Craig.
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The point is not how long it can go before it dies, ANY engine can go for a very long time without an oil change. The point is that if you want your vehicle to last you need to maintain it and not changing your oil is just about the worst thing you can do to it.

You are basically letting your car deteriorate into a beater and insulting the intelligence every single person on this forum that actually cares about the health and lifespan of their engine.
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:58 PM
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Wha't your theory on 9/11 Joe? (just kidding)

Perhaps if a car leaks enough oil, you could top off a quart a week or so and balance out.

Its fun to see you guys get all hyped up by this guy. I don't think he will convince anyone, so why indulge him? Judging from his profile pic he's seems like a real winner.
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:59 PM
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I'm posting bad/damaging advice? Oh really?

Attempting to convert our diesels over to veggie oil has ruined more injection pumps than I can count. Who is the one advocating converting to veggie?

Game, set, match.

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Old 12-16-2007, 10:01 PM
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For once, I wholeheartedly, completely and totally agree with you 100%. Hence the reason I said "not changing your oil is just about the worst thing you can do to it."
Although, as a note, it is just as harmful to the engine and car as a whole not just the injection pump.

Now, you are just diverting the thread away from your complete rear beating. Let's get back on subject.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:02 PM
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Forced,

So you won't answer the question. You won't even venture a guess.

So you really aren't sure it's bad for the engine since you have absolutely no conviction in your argument.

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Old 12-16-2007, 10:03 PM
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Just for you Craig....
Thanks, after you finish your turn put him on ignore, and let someone else take over.
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