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How long did you tow it with the engine turning over? You'll need to tow it with the engine turning over for a while. It's not clear to me what you mean by 'tried 3 times'. You need to get up to speed, put it in S, start the engine turning over and keep towing it with the engine turning over. Make sure the glow plugs are warm when you put it into gear.
Check to make sure the transmission fluid is at the correct level. Did you put it in D or S?
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Guess I owe you 20 bucks..
Try it again, spin that baby up.
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take out the glow plugs, crank the engine. If your injectors and fuel deliery system is working properly, you will start seeing puffs of unburned fuel coming out the injector holes. Removing the injectors does 2 things: you can see if your Fuel system is delivering fuel and reduces wear and tear on the starter as it is not cranking against compression. This is a no fail system for me and ALL my diesels...
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I am in So Cal so admittedly it is difficult to find a stretch of road to do this on well. It seemed like he had towed me long enough but I don't know. |
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Glows could have cooled off in that time period. Time the turning on of the glowplugs so they are hot when you put it in gear. It's possible that you were not being pulled fast enough.
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Yay! IT LIVES!!!!!!
Well everyone, I was feeling completely over it, but I convinced my neighbor to take me out for a pull start one more time before I had it towed to the shop in the morning...and SHE STARTED!!!
I can not thank you all enough esp. Astroman, Kerry Edwards, and Chasinthesun, your advice was invaluable!!! I couldn't have done it without your help! Thanks a million!!!!!! |
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Rock on! It took me a few hours after bleeding the injector lines to start my 300sd after a simple filter change. However, this is only half the battle. Did it shut off alright (seriously)?
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Haha! Funny you mention it, because I did have to turn the car off with the Stop lever. But I figure this is just a vacuum issue (had the same problem with another 300d) so I figure today I would test the vacuum lines and figure out if I have a leak somewhere or if its the pump... I was just soooo relieved to get it started that I didn't worry too much about this part (yet) |
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If you end up replacing anything to do with the shut off solenoid/lever on the IP, look for the thread(s) about runaway 617's and how to avoid them.
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glad you finally got it running... now does it start with the key?
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The lift pump needs to be before the main filter. That could be causing some problems.
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Got it started with the key once, but it won't start again. Did a second tow start yesterday and took her for a long drive. She drove great. I had replaced a couple of the vaccuum tubes and she turned right off. But she won't start again with the key....I'm thinking that the starter needs to be replaced maybe? I have heard that on the older 123's that the starters didn't have great power...I was thinking about replacing it with a used starter from a '82-'85 turbo diesel model instead. What do you all think?
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Post a video of you trying to start it on YouTube and then link it here. You'll get some good opinions once people can see what's going on as you try to start it.
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I believe it is a well accepted fact that the starter from the turbo models spins the engine faster and will fit both the 617NA and the 616. I put one on my 77 617NA to spin it faster on winter starts.
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