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Old 08-22-2007, 12:29 AM
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What glue do they use to adhere the vinyl to the support column?

I am trying to replace the ripped vinyl on my support column, where you grab for your seatbelt. I took the whole interior plastic cover off and seat belt off to get the old vinyl off, and the new vinyl on.

I called the place that SOLD me the vinyl, and they didn't know how to put it on. Typical company anymore. "We don't even know our names!".

Anyways, the original vinyl was adhered with something, just on the little bit of vinycl that wrapped behind the plastic piece, not on the front part that you see. I'm assuming they used a tacky stuff, as opposed to a glue, because tacky stuff would keep the vinyl down while you worked on getting it in place. With glue, I'd have to hold it all down until it dried 10 hours later, then install it.

Anyone do this before?

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Old 08-22-2007, 12:49 AM
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I would use 3m Super 77. It works really good for that kind of stuff. you can get it at any hardware store. Just read the directions on the can on how to use it.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:05 AM
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On the Super 77, just make absolutely sure you have the vinyl where you want it the first time, because you don't get second chances with this glue! Once it touches, it's stuck.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:32 AM
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UHH, They use the same stuff mentioned in the dwarf thread. Sounds like it's pretty good stuff. Apparently, once you use it to.."Stick something" you won't be "Getting it off", for some amount of time. It sounds like it's a "Little hard" to deal with though, and I also heard "It sucks for repairing a Hoover"
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:54 AM
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3M General Trim Adhesive (#08088)
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:49 AM
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There's:

3M General Trim Adhesive
3M Super Trim Adhesive (made for higher heat situations)

I always use the Super - it rocks.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:53 AM
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Um.... I don't know if I really want to know about this "dwarf thread"!

About the Super 77, I would think that if you sprayed the vinyl, laying on a sheet of cardboard or the like, and sprayed the metal backing panel, you could then place the panel ON the vinyl, and slowly work from the middle inward, rubbing the vinyl down onto the metal.
Cut a slit in the middle of the seatbelt slot, roll the vinyl around the edges there, and then spray a little on the back side of the metal along the edges, just to make sure the vinyl stuck.
Then trim the vinyl beyond the edges of the metal (half an inch, less?), roll it over the edge, and you'd be done.

I'm not an interior upholsterer, but I think this is how it was suggested when I was reading one of the upholstery repair books I'd checked out from the library. It was a while ago, though, for a car long since down the road.

I haven't done this to my MB yet, but it's on my list of needed things. Like many other little projects...
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Old 08-22-2007, 11:20 AM
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3M makes great stuff.

I have used contact cement (brush on, not spray)weld DAP brand. Apply to both materials evenly, let dry completely and press together.You'll have one chance to get it right also.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:05 PM
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I redid mine (82 300SD) using Pliobond brand industrial contact cement. Sticks like a champ, even where vinyl is stretched around corners. Only downside is a residual odor, which may take months to completely go away. I think you could hasten the process, though, if you leave the re-assembled parts in a hot and very well ventilated area for an extended period (weeks?). Obviously, the interior of the car doesn't work.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:41 PM
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Greetings,

From a member in another group.

Martha (262,000 miles) needed a little cosmetic improvement on the
interior as the door post vinyl was flapping in the wind and my wife
bases her opinion on which car she wants to drive on how things look.
So, it was time for the dreaded "vinyl replacement" task (I hate
interior work - not my cup of tea cause my hands and fingers are made
for chopping wood, not threading needles). But, we did it and the
results can be seen at http://rides.webshots.com/album/560187720svCQnY

It is a 4 to 6 hour job for each post which I spread over 3 days on
the first post (learning curve issues) but the second post was a 6
hour job in one day - half the time is spent waiting for glue to dry.

I tried to do the first post with the seat belt attached - mistake.
Just pop the seat belt off (2 bolts) and remove the post entirely for
fitting, gluing, and positioning. I got the vinyl with backing from
Joann's (a fabric store for those of you who do not sew or embroider).
I got a yard of material for $10 and could have gotten by with 1/2
yard, but for the price it made sense to get a full yard. The roll
turns out to be just a little longer than the length of the post so no
cutting on the length as it is a perfect fit. The post is tapered at
the top (6") and wide at the bottom (11") so my first cut was a
tapered piece - mistake - the post sides gain height in the middle. So
the second piece was 11" wide from top to bottom and I trimmed excess off.

Tools of the trade: your wifes sewing scissors; a box cutter or razor
blade; spray on contact glue - I used Duro, but am thinking brush on
might be better; fasteners - I used lots of small Acco clips because
my glue really wasn't holding like Super Glue, it takes time to set.

Today I am going to see if I can match and cut a piece for my drivers
seat "the common wallet tear" problem as a temporary fix. The problem
is I now have 1/2 year of vinyl and need to find things to do with it.

Joann's has 5 to 10 colors, but I did not get an exact match. Close
enough for me, but not if you are showing your car in competition. I
am happy I got the fabric backed vinyl as it covers a multitude of
sins. If you are laying straight vinyl which is thinner and affixed
directly to the metal, you need to be much more careful.

brian from la verne

I hope this not plagiarism.

Enjoy!
daniel ... "Liesel" '84 300D Turbo
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:03 PM
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Note the advantage of brush on adhesive is that you don't have to do the entire piece at once. You can start at the seat belt hole (effectively the center of the pillar), and once that's neatly secured, work outward in two or more smaller steps. That's what I did, and it looks great--nice and tight all around, no wrinkles. My only complaint is the smell of the Pliobond, which has now disappeared.

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