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Old 08-29-2007, 12:07 PM
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87 300D Trans Low but Overfull?

on my 300D i noticed that the trans fluid when warm is at the minimum mark but when its cold its about 1 inch over the maximum mark.

and the trans is leaking real bad but i haven't looked from where yet

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Old 08-29-2007, 05:01 PM
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Better pull the belly plate and clean it up to find the leak, especially the bell housing and trannie pan. Park over a big piece of cardboard and trace the spots back up If your lucky it's leaking from the cooler fittings, one of the hoses or the pan it's self (some tend to over tighten the pan and get a gasget leak). If the bell housing is getting wet..... might be the dreaded trannie $eal$
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:30 PM
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sure hope its not the tranny seal, thats just not a fun job. most likely the steel lines anyways.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:39 PM
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well it is leaking a little from between the TC and trans, the most of the leaks look like its coming from the sides.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:59 PM
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on my 300D i noticed that the trans fluid when warm is at the minimum mark but when its cold its about 1 inch over the maximum mark.

and the trans is leaking real bad but i haven't looked from where yet
Are these readings with engine running, level surface, in park? Or with the engine off?

This would be consistent with fluid draining back into the pan when the engine was off. But I don't know if that's normal or not since I never through to check my AT fluid level with the engine off.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:04 PM
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I just got the car and i have NOT touched the trans at all, with the car running on a level surface in park at operating temp, the fluid is at the minimum mark.

i went out and checked it the next day with the car in the same place but cold and NOT running the fluid was about one inch over the maximum mark.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:31 PM
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really that doesnt matter, what matters is what the fluid level is when the car is running.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:22 PM
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I just got the car and i have NOT touched the trans at all, with the car running on a level surface in park at operating temp, the fluid is at the minimum mark.
IIRC, when cold, the level is ~2cm below where it'll be when warm. It should be exactly at the full mark when warm. Sounds like yours is a tad low.

I don't know about when the engine is not running, but having a higher level could be normal (fluid draining back into the pan from higher points in the system). I wouldn't worry unless someone more knowledgable says to or you're having problems.
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You can not get an accurate reading of transmission fluid level when the engine is not running. The marks on the dipstick are designed to properly read the level when the engine is running, thus turning the transmission and thus turning the transmission fluid pump inside the transmission. This causes the pump to pull up fluid from the pan and circulate it throughout the transmission, including the torque convertor. That's what the dipstick is calibrated for - and in some cases there are marks for "cold" and for "hot". In both cases the engine must be running, and the more accurate reading is done when hot, idling in Park, just after having switched between drive and reverse a few times.

When you stop the car, the fluid circulation stops and drains back into the pan, resulting in a higher level. There is probably a reason why this is not considered a proper condition for calibrating marks on the dipstick, and my guess is that there is some dependence on fluid draining down depending on how the transmission (or pump) stops - whether it lets fluid fully drain or not.

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will a warm overfull trans not shift?

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