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Old 09-01-2007, 07:41 PM
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Welded my broken seat springs

Being sick of my saggy seats, but not wanting to disassemble the whole seat to replace the spring box I decided to give welding a shot. Pulled the seat, set it on its back and stuck a wet towel behind some of the springs to protect the padding from flying sparks. Then I hit the broken spots with my 110V wire feed welder. It sits like a new seat now. Hopefully the repair will hold up.

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Old 09-01-2007, 08:15 PM
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Hopefully the repair will hold up.
I hate to be the one to toss cold water on the vailiant attempt, but, the springs are heat treated and tempered wire and welding them destroys both the hardness and the temper. You end up with a brittle connection between the two hardened wires that cannot withstand the highly stressful and cyclic demands of a spring.

But, I wish you all the luck in the world with it.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:21 PM
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Has anybody tried epoxying a steel tube around those broken connections? epoxy is insanely strong, and wont heat the spring material.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:14 PM
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I tried using epoxy putty with a steel tube around the broken sections of spring. The putty did not hold up. Any other bonding material suggestions?

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Old 09-01-2007, 10:54 PM
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Seat Springs

Somebody (Diesel Giant??) had a repair on here which involved using small tubes cut to be as long as possible for the area. I forget how they were held in place.

How about crimping with giant channel-locks? How about stiff cutting fuel hose to match the left-over spaces, and hose clamping in place? The hose would keep the tube from slipping around.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:36 PM
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I hate to be the one to toss cold water on the vailiant attempt, but, the springs are heat treated and tempered wire and welding them destroys both the hardness and the temper. You end up with a brittle connection between the two hardened wires that cannot withstand the highly stressful and cyclic demands of a spring.

But, I wish you all the luck in the world with it.
Unfortunately knowing what I do about metallurgy, I have to agree with Brian on this, it'll seem great and work for a short while, eventually the flexible spring steel and the hardened weld area/softened steel around the weld will become divorced of their differences.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:44 PM
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Somebody fixed broken springs by cutting and sliding old injector lines over the broken pieces.
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Old 09-02-2007, 12:46 AM
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That was Diesel Giant

Diesel Giant has a short instruction sequence on his web site on using an old section of injector line cut out and slipped over both ends of the spring break. It was a while ago that I looked at it but I thinkd the whole thing was held in place with tie wire.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:17 PM
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I hate to be the one to toss cold water on the vailiant attempt, but, the springs are heat treated and tempered wire and welding them destroys both the hardness and the temper. You end up with a brittle connection between the two hardened wires that cannot withstand the highly stressful and cyclic demands of a spring.

But, I wish you all the luck in the world with it.
I know...that's why I said that. If it does give out I will break down and swap in my new springs, but I figured I would try a quick fix first.

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