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rod_tienzo 09-03-2007 03:39 AM
Oil leak at base of injector OM617 79 model
 
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My engine is s OM 617.912 model 79 300D . While I was testing the engine running it at high rpm. I saw oil bubbling out from the base of the injector base At #1, #4,#5 nozzle base. They all are coming out from the same position. They only bubble at high rpm.

What can I do to remedy. It is very hard to remove the injector plugs. The base seem fixed. Is there a special tool to remove, or maybe re tighten it. Is there something I can do with the HEAD or have I done something wrong wrong the HEAD. I finished replacing my HEAD gasket. I checked re-checked the HEAD bolts. 65 ft.pounds.

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toomany MBZ 09-03-2007 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rod_tienzo (Post 1609720)
My engine is s OM 617.912 model 79 300D . While I was testing the engine running it at high rpm. I saw oil bubbling out from the base of the injector base At #1, #4,#5 nozzle base. They all are coming out from the same position. They only bubble at high rpm. Are you sure it's oil, vs fuel?

What can I do to remedy. It is very hard to remove the injector plugs. The base seem fixed. Is there a special tool to remove, or maybe re tighten it. No, just pull lines, use a deep 27mm, or 1 1/16 socket, torque to 55 ft. lbs. Is there something I can do with the HEAD or have I done something wrong wrong the HEAD. I finished replacing my HEAD gasket. I checked re-checked the HEAD bolts. 65 ft.pounds.

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If you do pull injectors, be sure to replace heat shields. Install right side up, too.

rod_tienzo 09-03-2007 07:14 AM
yes i'm sure it is oil. i opted not to open. i have to find 27 deep socket first. thanks toomanymbz. give u an update ..

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kerry 09-03-2007 09:59 AM
Fuel oil or engine oil?

rod_tienzo 09-03-2007 11:31 AM
Oil leak at base of injector OM617 79 model
 
kerry, it is engine oil. tsk.. i really wonder what is wrong. it only bubbles at high RPM. :(

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funola 09-03-2007 12:04 PM
That pic looks quite greasy. Degrease and dry the entire injector and surrounding area including the valve cover gasket then run it and see where the oil is really coming from and go from there..

TMAllison 09-03-2007 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by funola (Post 1609864)
That pic looks quite greasy. Degrease and dry the entire injector and surrounding area including the valve cover gasket then run it and see where the oil is really coming from and go from there..
Agree'd. Waste a can or two of your favorite cleaner so you can see what you are doing and confirm what you are seeing. Gunk, carb or brake cleaner work well. The latter works the best but can dry out rubber parts so should not be used every day.

Oil would come from the valve cover gasket, not the inj. The one inj you show looks wet where the metal fuel line attaches and the return lines also look damp.

toomany MBZ 09-03-2007 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TMAllison (Post 1609913)
Agree'd.

Oil would come from the valve cover gasket, not the inj. The one inj you show looks wet where the metal fuel line attaches and the return lines also look damp.
Yes, I agree, clean up, yet if he's getting bubbles, would seem to be a leak from injector base via compression?

rod_tienzo 09-23-2007 03:44 AM
Now it bubbles even on low rev? What can it be?
Anyone who has manual for rear differential. I found out that my right rear wheel is loose? I have to check what is wrong. The other side of the rear wheel is tight. I discovered it while bleeding the brake lines. Good that I haven't run it for long? Wheew.. I am afraid that the wheel will disengage. Need help!!!

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rod_tienzo 09-23-2007 03:46 AM
And all the injector base is bubbling!!! If it is compression, what is wrong and what should I do?

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toomany MBZ 09-23-2007 10:42 PM
From the pic, you may have an oil leak from the cover gasket, the red stuff looks as if it's a sealant, you do not need. Anyway, bubbles would be compression "leaking" around injectors, or cover, torque down, cover is 11 ft. lbs. see if that helps, otherwise remove and replace washers under injectors, then torque those down to 55 ft. lbs.
Regarding your rear wheel, should be good now, torque those to 85 ft. lbs.

rod_tienzo 09-24-2007 05:38 AM
Thanks for the advice!! I have to get a deep 27 to remove the injectors. Asfor the wheel, it seems that it is loose between the axle end and the brake disk. I still have to find a manuall to check what part is loose? Do we have it here in the forum?


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toomany MBZ 09-24-2007 04:29 PM
You can use a 1 1/16 inch socket=27mm. CD-ROM manuals are available from http://mbusa.com I think. If your wheel is bolted on and still loose, both? The rear bearings can be dealt with, yet that is not normal, and I understand, quite involved.

rod_tienzo 09-25-2007 12:00 AM
Only the one in the drivers right side rear wheel.



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toomany MBZ 09-25-2007 07:21 AM
Check for excessive play on your half shaft, the condition of the CV joints, in board, and out board on the drivers side.

rod_tienzo 09-25-2007 01:12 PM
After removing the rotor, the bearing seemed worn out. I still have to figure how to remove the bearing? Do you have any idea?

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winmutt 09-25-2007 01:59 PM
This is leaking from the prechamber not the injector itself if it is leaking through the indentation in the prechamber mount. This is due to a bad seal in the PC probably due to improper torque. Where are you located?

rod_tienzo 09-25-2007 02:50 PM
Thanks for the info. I am from the Philippines. Quite far from where you are. Have you experienced this? What is a good solution to this kindof problem?


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toomany MBZ 09-25-2007 02:52 PM
For the rear bearing, you'll need a puller, and patience, I would imagine.


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