Couldn`t find anything in the search.

I have a gauge cluster that reads in ferinheit and oil pressure in lbs.
will it work in my 85 300D instrument panel and work properly?

when I see the temp at 80, it doesn`t mean much to me except that is where it hangs out. but I see 175, 200 deg etc... I understand exactly what that means. same with oil pressure, don`t get the bar thing.

so has any one done this swap?
This came out of a 80 300D at the local P N P.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

the basic package is the same, but with that many years different you might run into some minor wiring differences. but if you just switch the individual guages you probably will be fine. the cost of the whole panel may be low enough to experiment and ifyou find it won't work you arent out much.


Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

The oil pressure gauge should work since it reads directly off of oil pressure at the oil filter housing. Check the P/N of the coolant temp sender for the 2 model years. If they are the same, it should work fine. If P/N's are different, it may till work, i.e. different physical dimensions but same resistance/temp curve.

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85 300D turbo pristine w 157k when purchased 161K now
83 300 D turbo 297K runs great. SOLD!
83 240D 4 spd manual- parted out then junked

Since the calibration scale is in different units, I'd be surprised if the P/N was the same.

Physically, the cluster is the same for both scales, try a plug and play and see if the new one works. The decorative little circles in the center of the gage change from silver to black on the late W123s, though.

Jim

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14 E250 BlueTEC black. 45k miles
95 E320 Cabriolet Emerald green 66k miles
94 E320 Cabriolet Emerald green 152k miles
85 300TD 4 spd man, euro bumpers and lights, 15" Pentas dark blue 274k miles

I said p/n of the senders. NOT THE GAUGE!

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85 300D turbo pristine w 157k when purchased 161K now
83 300 D turbo 297K runs great. SOLD!
83 240D 4 spd manual- parted out then junked

Maybe you could find an oil pressure gauge in lbs too

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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"

Wouldn't it be easier to spend 2 minutes memorizing the conversions????

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Why "mess" up a nice dash? all gauges are mere pointers anyway. only the oil pressure gauge is really showing pressure, and it's so undersized, that it's always pegged. why bother? electronic gauges are all pretty much the same, just memorize "where" they normally sit, and if something changes, assume the wiring or the senders failed, and check out the motor.
I find it kinda cool that I drive a car with metric vitals.

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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

it will work.

After my first MB had its Farenheit and PSI gauge, all my others have had them in Celsius and bar. bar is simple- 1bar is equal to ~14-15psi (14.7psi? I think)so the increment markings, 1,2,3bar are practically 15,30,45psi. the temp markings arent that much different either. your thermostat should have 87C marked on it or so, thats where your temp should sit when warmed up.

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1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350

An 85 will look very silly with the older gauge (due to the chrome dot and the incorrect units), but it will probably work. AFAIK, the round plug is the same for all of them.

It's pretty easy to understand the units;

80C = good, 120C = bad

Oil pressure not pegged at >1500 rpm = bad.

Oil pressure <1 bar at idle = bad.

Thank You to all for the replys.

I don`t plan on going to any concourse type car shows, so not too worried about the silly looks of the gauge. and I have some flat black paint for the silver dot thing in the middle to match the other gauges.

AS far as memorizing the conversion system, Iam too old to learn new tricks. or too stuborn.

As soon as I get off my butt and get the painting done under the hood, I`ll drop the engine in towards the end of the week. after I get everything hooked up and engine started, hopefully oil pressire etc... and everyting works, I`ll swap in this gauge.

I have seen these gauges for a long time and always wondered why they were not placed into the U.S. versions. I know probably additional production cost. but then left and right hand cars are produced for the different nations.

I`ll keep you posted, stand by for the next thrilling adventure.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

Allot of folks here appreciate the "Germanness" of these cars, what your saying is kind of like going too another country and getting up set because nobody speaks English,
These are German cars

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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"

Yeah but in 79 (and before?), Mercedes cars imported into the US came with English gauges. I am not sure when it changed to Metric but I am surprised that the DOT allowed it.

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85 300D turbo pristine w 157k when purchased 161K now
83 300 D turbo 297K runs great. SOLD!
83 240D 4 spd manual- parted out then junked

You are correct, the early W123s had english gauges for some strange reason. I don't see why the U.S. DOT would car about the units on the oil pressure or temperature instruments, at the time most domestic cars just had idiot lights.

Early imports notwithstanding, I love the "authenticity" of my metric gauges. I just look at where they sit. Temp + 120 = bad. Oil pressure 0 = bad. Fuel R = bad.

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL