.....which would make you a prince among men...(at least in some rarefied circles)

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

I can't believe it's that important. I mean... pollution is pollution but I can't believe that California is actually paying somebody to sit by a phone and answer it, and paying some other office to drag these people in and check their cars out... over a cloud of smoke.

That's just sort of on the fine line between "responsible" and "utterly, unimaginably, ridiculous"

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

Come on, we are talking about a state with a fetish on stupidly low NOx emissions while the rest of the world is concentrating on CO2.

How many people really understand how costly it is to go from an Ultra Low Emission Vehicle with 0.05g/mile of NOx to Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle at 0.02g/mile?

I've been driving diesels on and off for the last 25 years. While living in Kali it was my way to give the emission testing Nazi's the big middle finger since diesels were exempt from testing.

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DJ


84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012

Their fetishes on studipity transcends way more than NOx, Co2, or excessive smoke. I count myself real lucky, I must live in one of the last "emission free" counties left in Texas or the Continental US.

As to the biannual smog tests, they still are exempt. (For now. It could take a tun for the worse; I would not be surprised.)

I don't know whether they must get tested for smog upon first registration or change of ownership.

The new diesels models can't be sold in California and about 6 other eastern states - yet. You would have to buy one out of state that was used with over 7,500 miles on it. Some people did, but the E320cdi is a sought after used car; no bargains on them.

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

First problem is living in SF.
Second problem is living in CA.
Third problem is not getting out.

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1986 SDL
My Other Car is a Porsche. When it stops leaking, I'm out of oil.

:liar:


www.mistersf.com

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

All you west coasters are a little crazy.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

your just jealous

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Current:
05 E320 CDI
07 GL320 CDI
08 Sprinter
05 Dodge Cummins
01 Dodge Cummins

Previous
2004 E55 AMG
2002 C32 AMG (#2)
1995 E300
1978 300D
1987 300D
2002 C32 AMG(blown motor :[
1981 300SD
1983 300SD
1987 300SDL
2002 Jetta TDI
1996 S420
1995 S500
1993 190E 2.6
1992 190E 2.3
1985 190E 2.3 5-Speed

I left that crazy state while I still had some sanity, what's your guys excuse for staying?

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DJ


84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012

Business is great.
Plus, we haven't had to do a smog test for 3-4 years, ever since we got rid of our last gasser. The state couldn't give a crap that my TDI only met EPA emissions specs, not CA.

Isn't it outrageous that the state doesn't let new, CLEAN diesels be sold here, but it couldn't give a damn less about the pollution produced by old diesels??
If they want to reduce pollution, they should be giving REBATES to trade up to a new diesel! Forget bickering about NOx emissions, ANY new diesel is going to pollute less than my E300 or your 300SD.

I'm all for reducing emissions, but for as long as we spell it Kalifornistan, I'll be blowing diesel smoke out the back of my E300.

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99 E300 TD -- sold
01 540i 6 spd

No rebates but many air quality districts will gladly give you some money to retire your diesel. For example, the Bay Area Air Quality Management District will give you $650 to retire your running and registered 1985 and older car. Guess where they are going? Right, the boneyards like Pick-N-Pull where you can get parts for cheap and keep other diesels running. I can't imagine anybody would "retire" a running California (rust free)diesel for $650!

http://www.baaqmd.gov/pln/grants_and_incentives/vehicle_buyback/index.htm

You're absolutely right. In theory, giving rebates to trade up to a cleaner diesel would be a great benefit for the air. But there will always be the factor of people like us, people who don't want to get rid of their old car, or who could get much more money by selling it to someone who could care for it.

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99 E300 TD -- sold
01 540i 6 spd

Thats not such a bad deal. If you have some POS junker they will give you $650 for it?

Kalifornia is great entertainment for us; I like to call them our communist neighbors to the west.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200