I know this is a benz forum, just curious how the benz diesels do compared to their german counterpart Volkswagen jetta?

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1996 E300 D
1992 300D
1990 Ford E-350 7.3 Diesel AKA "the Deep Fryer"

'Remember the parts you see falling off your brand new V.W as you drive away
from the dealer do not have a Mercedes part number on them.

'Not to imply that Mercedes does not have it's own major Q.C. problems.
("You could not force me to involve myself with a M.B. produced in the last
ten years.")

I'd say BMW leads the pack. BMW it is just introducing a new 2 liter 200+hp twin turbo diesel engine, and their twin turbo 3 liter diesel engine is astonishing. IIRC 286hp.

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1992 Mercedes 190D 2.5 turbo 5sp manual. EGT+boost gauges. Boost controller set to ~14.5 psi. 1 1/4 turns on full load adjustment. LPG injection. Next in the list is water injection.

Other than having diesel engines they aren't really easy to compare. One is a RWD luxury car, the other a FWD economy car.

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1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi

You can't compare them.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

I miss my old 92 Jetta TD in town - much easier than the SD in traffic and more fun to drive as it was a manual 5 speed tranny.

THE SEATS IN THE VW WERE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE BENZ SEATS

Other than that, the Benz wins hands down in many areas. Especially crash protection and pure snob value.... people admire the star on the hood of a 126........

No BMW diesels over here in the U.S. yet -- or at least not in a long time.

Maybe their quality is great on the low end. My M5 was the most problem-ridden car I've ever owned, and never have I been so happy for something to be out of my garage. Good riddance to the vehicle and the monthly trip to the dealer!

Cheers, John

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'98 E300TD (W210) | Sold 6/09 with 205k and counting
'04 VW Touareg V10TDI

BMW is supposed to bring a new diesel 3-series to the US sometime next year. It will be worth checking out. BMW is now supposedly the #1 luxury brand in Europe, though I'm not sure if that's based on sales or customer satisfaction or both. Personally I'm more of a Mercedes guy because Mercedes has a more interesting history of cars and the star on the hood is nice. Just look at Mercedes and BMW 20-30 years ago. Back then BMW cars looked like regular junk, but Mercedes cars have always had elegant styling. Today they're much more comparable and quite similar actually. As far as VW TDI's are concerned, they are indeed very different from MB because they serve a different purpose. They're much more about economy and less about luxury. I have one of each and it's a great combo.

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2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

Anyone have any opinions on the old BMW diesels, like the 80's 524 ?

How do they hold up vs. the MBs? I would think maybe getting parts would be harder, but maybe not?

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They are rare and parts are getting hard to find from what I hear, but other than that owners seem to like them.

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2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

i love my 1990 passat wagon i converted to td.. all the luxury a 83 jetta lacked.. still pulls 40mpg, 23+ gal fuel tank and i fill that thing up to the roof with crap.. LOL.. also no BS issues a tdi has..

never owned a mb.. just working on a few..

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yeah, i didnt mention BMW since I didnt think they sold any diesels in the us at this time.

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1996 E300 D
1992 300D
1990 Ford E-350 7.3 Diesel AKA "the Deep Fryer"