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Old 09-28-2007, 10:53 AM
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I'll go back to the thread on manual trans swap and do a little more homework.

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Old 09-28-2007, 10:56 AM
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I have yet to hear anything good about Mercedes' 5-speed manuals on the European/UK MB forums.

From mercedesclub.org.uk:
"They weren't popular over here either - they're horrible boxes"
"I think the term used here is woolly and not much feel"
"I agree, a nice 5-speed is lovely...but MB don't make a nice 5-speed"
"I had a W123 230E with a 5 speed box and agree that it was horrible and made the car impossible to drive smoothly."
Wow, thats news to me. I really cant tell the difference between the five speed and four speed transmissions (in 1st through 4th,) and I have owned and driven allot of manual 240Ds in the last few years. I admit, I'm not a, how can I say? long time "car guy", professional driver,
Maybe I need to try the "blind fold test"
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:45 PM
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just did mine

Got back from a 240 mile trip, 29.4 mpg. So I say do it. I am loving mine.

I used the 79 manual trans, maybe I lucked up, smooth shifting, notchy but not sticky, no noise. I followed the general opinion: these boxes are pretty bullet-proof, so unless something doesn't feel right, toss it in! I have done a few other conversions on different cars, and I have torn down the box on those occasions. If you have the time and patience and feel like doing it, do it. You'll learn a few things and you'll "KNOW."

I have the 2.88 rear. The only problem is BIG hills. And fast starts, if you want them. The car won't really stall at all on the level, and you only need 1000 rpm to drop the clutch on most hills.

What they said: driver touch. I don't expect to lose my clutch anytime soon (except that little stress crack on the clutch lever is worrying me!)
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:35 PM
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I have yet to hear anything good about Mercedes' 5-speed manuals on the European/UK MB forums.

From mercedesclub.org.uk:
"They weren't popular over here either - they're horrible boxes"
"I think the term used here is woolly and not much feel"
"I agree, a nice 5-speed is lovely...but MB don't make a nice 5-speed"
"I had a W123 230E with a 5 speed box and agree that it was horrible and made the car impossible to drive smoothly."
The five speed in my 280e euro is very very sweet. I cannot imagine what they are talking about them being crap. Jealous maybe.

I always relished the sweet shift from fourth to fifth.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:46 PM
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The five speed in my 280e euro is very very sweet. I cannot imagine what they are talking about them being crap. Jealous maybe.

I always relished the sweet shift from fourth to fifth.

Tom W
Sounds like a case of "sour grapes" to me sorry but the 5 spds are sweet

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