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tankdriver · #16 10-03-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hofler

Ok Tank,
So if I wanted to reduce body roll in the turns I would want stiffer springs as well as HD shocks?

Correct. Stiffer springs also tend to be shorter, lowering the center of gravity, which is also good for less roll.

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And what is all this talk about the Vogtland srpings?

I don't know. I would guess there are a few spring manufacturers that make stiffer springs for our cars, but they are a bit old, so maybe not.

tobybul · #17 10-03-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by zeke

This is helpful -
It is clear that Bilstiens are way way preferred!
How many of the rest of you that recommend Bilsteins hands down have tried other brands of shocks?

How much better are they than KYB (1/2 the price) or Monroe (1/4 the price)?

I have Carquest KYBs on my 84D from PO. They are ok but no where near the ride of the Bils on my 85D. I'm just waiting for the KYBs to go bad (I may not even wait that long) so I can replace them with Bils. Autozone also carry Gabriels but I've already tried them on the 84D. Returned them after trying them out and put back the kyb's if that tells you anything.

#18 10-03-2007, 11:43 AM

Bilstein HD.

123Guy · #19 10-03-2007, 11:48 AM

KYB's are not a good choice for an MB - Japanese shocks belong on Ricers. I've had Bilstein HD's on my 300CD and Bilstein Comforts on my wife's 300SD since the cars were new and I've changed them about every 90K or so - I wouldn't settle for anything less. Phil has the best prices on the HD's right here on the site - I just got a replacement set for my 300CD from him last week, put them on last weekend - you think your shocks are doing just fine, until you you bolt up a new set - then you realize how the others had lost their umph.
Don't settle for a lesser shock, you won't be happy.

Dieselbenz.info · #20 10-03-2007, 12:41 PM

if you are looking for a nice DIY shock guide, here is one:

http://www.dieselbenz.info/wiki/index.php?title=Replacing_Front_%26_Rear_Shocks

tobybul · #21 10-03-2007, 10:21 PM

.......... in ride between Bilstein Comforts vs the HDs? I'd like to try the HDs but am afraid it might be too stiff.

winmutt · #22 10-03-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tobybul

.......... in ride between Bilstein Comforts vs the HDs? I'd like to try the HDs but am afraid it might be too stiff.

I dont know how the comforts can be anymore comfortable. The HD were a bit stiff at the start but once broken in there is nothing that isnt "Comfort" about them.

#23 10-03-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tobybul

.......... in ride between Bilstein Comforts vs the HDs? I'd like to try the HDs but am afraid it might be too stiff.

I like the HDs, but I've never tried the comforts. The HDs are perfect on smooth roads, they might get a little annoying if you have to drive on rough surfaces.

winmutt · #24 10-03-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hofler

And what is all this talk about the Vogtland srpings?

You missed out on the group by. 50mm drop in front 40mm drop in rear.

tobybul · #25 10-04-2007, 09:39 AM

http://www.bilstein.com/mistore/ymm_productf.php?company_id=100484&year=1984&model_id2=1824&makes=MERCEDES-BENZ&storedimg.x=1&storedimg.y=1&storedimg=1&storeYMM=storeYMM

The above Bilstein link shows 3 different shocks available for the 300D:

Comfort, HD and Sport

bodyart27 · #26 10-04-2007, 09:45 AM

Looking at the Bilstein description of their shock - seems like I'd go HD (and I'm starting to get the itch to replace my shocks!)

My 300sd is already comfort enough

winmutt · #27 10-04-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tobybul

http://www.bilstein.com/mistore/ymm_productf.php?company_id=100484&year=1984&model_id2=1824&makes=MERCEDES-BENZ&storedimg.x=1&storedimg.y=1&storedimg=1&storeYMM=storeYMM

The above Bilstein link shows 3 different shocks available for the 300D:

Comfort, HD and Sport

Yes but nobody seems to carry the sports.... If I can find them they go on the front of my car.

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HOLY FOO SHNIKEYS!#!@#!

http://www.ajusa.com/cgi-bin/stores/details?vendor_code=BIL&ajr_part_number=BIL%20B36-1470&category_id=d0b131ccf4b498c4de3902506fc1f679&application_lookup_name=main&application_id=5cb043dc04898273620c31d188a92045&source=products&session_id=961fe2c61bc7a18aa3da68f3299004b6
Bilstein says I can even get em from AZ.

This place is the cheapest. I wonder if these are for W124 tho.

123Guy · #28 10-04-2007, 11:28 AM

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http://www.ajusa.com/cgi-bin/stores/details?vendor_code=BIL&ajr_part_number=BIL%20B36-1470&category_id=d0b131ccf4b498c4de3902506fc1f679&application_lookup_name=main&application_id=5cb043dc04898273620c31d188a92045&source=products&session_id=961fe2c61bc7a18aa3da68f3299004b6
Bilstein says I can even get em from AZ.
This place is the cheapest. I wonder if these are for W124 tho.[/quote]

The best prices and tech advice on them is right here on MercedesShop. call Phil, his number flashes when you click on Buy Parts. He just got the HD's for my 300CD and his price was the best.
He's a good guy to deal with, call him

JimFreeh · #29 10-04-2007, 11:48 AM

Three years ago, I had new KYBs on my 81 240D, and new Bilsteins on my 83 300D.

Both were an improvement over the worn bilsteins in the cars.

The KYBs were nice for the price, and I've also got them installed on my 71 250C, but the Bilsteins appear to have held up much better over the last few years.

I no longer have the 240D, but my Uncle is still driving it, so I can still compare the two cars.....

Bilsteins are worth the extra money, IMHO.

I've never used the HDs, always stuck with the comforts and have not been disapointed.

Jim

winmutt · #30 10-04-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 123Guy

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http://www.ajusa.com/cgi-bin/stores/details?vendor_code=BIL&ajr_part_number=BIL%20B36-1470&category_id=d0b131ccf4b498c4de3902506fc1f679&application_lookup_name=main&application_id=5cb043dc04898273620c31d188a92045&source=products&session_id=961fe2c61bc7a18aa3da68f3299004b6
Bilstein says I can even get em from AZ.
This place is the cheapest. I wonder if these are for W124 tho.

The best prices and tech advice on them is right here on MercedesShop. call Phil, his number flashes when you click on Buy Parts. He just got the HD's for my 300CD and his price was the best.
He's a good guy to deal with, call him[/QUOTE]

Yes but does he have the sports.....