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Power adders.
I know of NOx and propane injection and water/methanol.
What would THESE do if injected? Pure O2 Propane/O2 blend? Aceteylene?? I know Acetelyne is a VERY rich fuel, albeit VERY unstable. Natural gas? the same as propane right? and I guess really any combustable gas....what'd happen?
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O2 -- probably throw a rod from the diesel/O2 explosion. The local gasser that drove through a cloud of pure O2 a few years back only coasted a few hundred feet downhill before stopping and catching fire. I'd be suprised if it even got a full load of O2 into a cylinder -- probably just some significant O2 enrichment. http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=16912
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acetylene is too unstable to inject into an engine... the fuel autoignites at around 25psi without any oxy... kinda hard to plumb it to the engine... I suppose a acetone impregnated line solution could be rigged up (catalyst to prevent the autoignition) , but I don't forsee any future installations...
oxy could be used, but I think it would cause the cylinders or pistons to melt. if any part of the iron block got hot, the oxy would instantly burn the iron... Propane/O2 blend... scary.
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NOx is nothing more than extra oxygen coupled with nitrogen as a carrier.
why does taking the nitrogen away make it more dangerous? just a curiosity thing anyway..
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Because O2 is a freaking accelerate (oxidizer). mix it with anything on the planet that's flammable and in a closed environment to boot, (cylinder, pipe bomb etc) and it will freaking explode !!!
Ever wonder why they don't like hydrogen peroxide on airplanes ??? 'cause it contains a lot of O2 with water as a carrier. Why not just blow some black gunpowder down the air intake ??? You'll get the same effect.
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Well, you know
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Since Mythbusters tried that and could not make a lawnmower engine run on it, "Myth busted, it WILL NOT WORK." Entertaining for sure, but I think they half-ass half of the projects. HEY [1/2 x 1/2] = 1/4 I guess that means they quarter-ass it all the time But seriously, contrary to popular Wiki-pinion Rudy did design his first engine (size of a small building) to run on coal dust. IIRC the museum display said, "..it then destroyed half a city block." There was a Daguerreotype picture with it - pretty gnarly. I guess that means you can put anything in it once.
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Pure O2 will work better than NOS in a diesel and there will be no risk of an explosion. It might kill your O2 sensor if you have one.
The reason is NOS has to be heated to a certain temperature before it disassociates and frees up its Oxygen for combustion. Injecting pure O2 will increase the burn rate of your fuel and start combustion a little sooner. Your burn rate will approximate your injectors fuel delivery better. You will also have more complete combustion. end result is more power.
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I should have clarified it.....Gunpowder + Diesel fuel in the intake.
Better yet......Diesel fuel + ammonium nitrate in the intake. Diesel fuel = flammability Ammonium Nitrate = O2 Now you have the poor mans dynamite. Can you say Timothy McVay ???
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N2O is 36% oxygen by weight. When the nitrous oxide is heated to approximately 572*F it breaks down to release extra oxygen. The nitrogen that is part of N2O performs an important "buffering or dampening" of the increased cylinder pressures making combustion smoother and more controlled. |
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I Rigged Up Acetone injection into my 82 300d. It was very simple, pump activated by the kickdown circut, sprayed a mist of acetone right infront of the turbo inlet in the U tube. End result was more power, cleaned out the intake, and cooled the charge air quite a bit. I haven't recorded the temperature yet but it cooled it down so much that I could hold my hand on the compressor side of the turbo after a half hour of driving. But heat soak catches up quick and it gets really hot after a few mins. No ill effects yet, but on an unrelated issue the plastic outlet on the top of the rad cracked when I was changing the hoses so now I am sitting here waiting for parts. It was the same day I rigged up the acetone circut and I was just starting to have fun Pics available of my setup and wiring if anybody wants.
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