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PanzerSD 10-12-2007 07:31 PM

Horrendous Smoke
 
When I left work to come home today, I started the SD, and there was a constant exhaling of opaque smoke at idle.
rev the engine and horrendous cloud of smoke, kinda white, kinda blue.
stinky.

took off on the highway and left a trail of smoke for about a kilometer,
then as engine temps went up the smoke went away and that was it.

Need oil change? dirty fuel somehow? I'm at the bottom of a tank.....

kerry 10-12-2007 07:58 PM

Bad vacuum diaphragm? I believe you have the earlier vacuum pump with the hose that goes to the air filter.

PanzerSD 10-12-2007 09:41 PM

nope, sorry...peirburg single line....


NEXT! :D

dawsonj3 10-12-2007 09:48 PM

How many miles do you have on your injector nozzles?

This problem sounds like bad nozzles combined with low cold compression - which may explain why the smoke went away as it reached normal operating temperature.

However, maybe your IP is sucking the crud from the bottom of your fuel tank and for whatever reason the fuel filter isn't catching it. Just speculation here.

dawsonj3 10-12-2007 09:50 PM

Does your car burn oil? Perhaps your valve guides are nearing the end of their useful lives, and oil collects in the combustion chamber while the car is parked?

300SDog 10-12-2007 10:02 PM

Panzer what's the temps up ther in Canada this time of year? Betcha the diesel same as human beings sees its own breath in the cold.

Diesel240D 10-12-2007 10:14 PM

Horrendous Smoke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry (Post 1645358)
Bad vacuum diaphragm? I believe you have the earlier vacuum pump with the hose that goes to the air filter.

Yep! the vacuum pump ,pumping oil into the intake manifold , I had the same episode with mine. :rolleyes:

JimmyL 10-12-2007 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel240D (Post 1645486)
Yep! the vacuum pump ,pumping oil into the intake manifold , I had the same episode with mine. :rolleyes:

Please see post #3.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanzerSD (Post 1645458)
nope, sorry...peirburg single line....


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Brian Carlton 10-12-2007 11:29 PM

When the vehicle is fully warm and the speeds are down...........does the smoke return...........have you checked outside the vehicle?

PanzerSD 10-12-2007 11:30 PM

Well, I know this.

I need to change my oil, my pre-filter is quite dark looking, and the yellow paint marks on the injector line nuts on the IP are no longer intact.
I will also assume that my injectors are original....how do I tell if they've been worked on?

so, I will change my oil and pre-filters tomorrow and see what happens....This was the first time I have seen this type of smoke from my car.
we have a used oil furnace at work, and my exhaust smelled like the exhaust from that furnace....

Brian Carlton 10-12-2007 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanzerSD (Post 1645526)
so, I will change my oil and pre-filters tomorrow and see what happens....

The issue has nothing to do with your oil or fuel filters.

PanzerSD 10-12-2007 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawsonj3 (Post 1645464)
Does your car burn oil? Perhaps your valve guides are nearing the end of their useful lives, and oil collects in the combustion chamber while the car is parked?

Well, I started the car this morning, at -1*c and not much more than the usual overnight cold diesel smoke that I've seen for three years.
Drove to work. left work at lunch...no new smoke. then for some reason at 5:00 today (after 4 hours sitting at 8*c, POOF, a good puff of whitish/bluish/brownish smoke came out, dense enough to cast a shadow.

dawsonj3 10-13-2007 09:16 PM

If the black smoke cloud appears after the car has sat for several hours, the odds are that the valve guides are allowing oil to leak into the combustion chamber, creating all that smoke when you start it. You mention that your engine has 443,000 KM on it - its going to burn some oil.

I'd keep driving it until it has trouble with cold starts, at which point a rebuild is probably due.


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