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Old 10-13-2007, 06:41 PM
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84 300D won't start

i read a quote in the boards here there is nothing more expensive than a cheap mercedes. please help prove 'em wrong.

here is my story...326k miles. i just lovingly poured $1k+ on new fluids and some drive shaft stuff. she still vibrates on acceleration--mechanic said motor mounts, but i'm out of $ to fix. so im living with her querks.

then she stopped starting. she started slow a few times, and now not at all. i got a strong battery. i figure its glow plugs or the power source to them. but i am usually wrong when i try to guess what is bugging her. i cant hear the glow charge buzz (that thing on the left front wheel well) anymore. could it just be a fuse? if yes, where is the fuse?

any help is appreciated. im in over my head. she keeps wanting more.
thanks in advance.
matt
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:01 PM
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Strip fuse in the box on left front fender where wires to glow plugs come from.
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Old 10-13-2007, 11:07 PM
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I am getting older, but I don't recall ever hearing the glow plug relay buzz on any of my 240Ds. Never had a 300D so maybe the extra plug makes the gadget buzz.

There are a number of things that contribute to poor starting, especially as the winter approaches and ambient temperatures drop. The issues can range from the battery, to the starter, to the glow plugs to the oil, or it can be something like valve adjustments or cylinder wall wear. On my 1982 240D, the engine mounts failed, and much of the starting torque of the starter was spent lifting the engine off the mounts, leading to the loss of piston speed during the compression stroke, which ends up allowing the block to absorb the heat of compression through a good part of the compression stroke, leading to lower temperatures at the moment of injection, and no light-off. It also let the starter beat itself to death. When I finally replaced the starter and the mounts, the starter came apart as soon as I unscrewed the front support bracket.

So, the problem may just be the glow plug relay fuse. But that is not guaranteed. On an old machine like this one, you may be in for a difficult winter. Jim
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1988 300E 5-speed 252,000 miles,
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Old 10-13-2007, 11:14 PM
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Have you changed the fuel filters? Usually when one of these beasts won't start, its because its not getting any fuel.
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