16 oz = 2 cups
20 gallons = 320 cups

Don't think you could gum anything up even with Elmer's Glue at that proportion.

edit: just be sure you put the additive in and THEN fill up at the pump. Sloshing around from the nozzle should blend it plenty well.

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

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Hello

Either 2 stroke or Canola, they will work just about the same.

Research into the 2 stroke oils has shown that the walmart (supertech) brand is one of the better oils.
But canola might make you feel a little better.

(I think research is out on whether ULSD has less lubricity than LSD,
But I am not sure)

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All fuel will gel at some temperature, the question is what temperature.

Take some of the mix you are thinking about and put it in a glass jar.

Then in more glass jars make a mixture of ever thicker versions of what you are using.

Keep these jars outside where you can see them.

Watch for the thicker mixtures starting to gel.

You may be surprised how cold it has to get for the fuel to gel.

Have Fun !
RichC

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Some diesels have problematic injection pumps, not 61x MB. Academic issue here.

Wait, these cars used to run on LSD? I always wondered what the trip odometer was for.

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'01 VW Beetle TDI
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD
'89 Toyota 4x4, needs 2L-T
'78 280Z with L28ET - 12.86@110
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Any thoughts about running straight Kerosene? I have a surplus of it and didn't know if this would have less lubrication or the same?

If this should be a different thread......sorry

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A lot less than even off-spec ULSD. Cut it with biodiesel, 2% is all you need.

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'01 VW Beetle TDI
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD
'89 Toyota 4x4, needs 2L-T
'78 280Z with L28ET - 12.86@110
Oil Burner Kartel #35

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Great solution when it's available. But you can't buy biodiesel everywhere. I'm in Boone, NC (or Lexington, NC) - the closest biodiesel stations are over 50 miles away. Yes, I've checked that little online directory of bio stations... the only one that was ever an option was recently closed down by their local town government on trumped up building inspection charges and such as that... they're moving to Greensboro which is a 45 mile trip... just to buy biodiesel? I don't think so.

If the OP lives in a biodiesel-popular area, then it's a perfect solution. But "go out and buy 2% biodiesel" isn't always an option for those who don't have their garage set up to be a lab and don't live close to a retailer.

If I were running straight kerosene, I'd cut it with the same stuff you'd cut ULSD with and not worry about it. It's got less lubricity than off-spec ULSD, but even so, just cut some clean canola oil or 2-stroke oil or whatever into it and it should be okay. 50/50 ULSD and kerosene would be fine, I think.

Incidentally... be careful filling up with kerosene at the pump. At least in NC, all kerosene pumps (that I have seen, and I've checked 30 or 40 at least) are marked "off-road use only" and have red dye. This would cause legal problems if you ever had your tank checked... and even without that, I don't trust some stations not to call the local constabulary in while you're filling up at their kerosene pump. I expect they'd do it.

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

Thanks again for all the replies. I'm not aware of biodiesel being sold anywhere within NJ. You have to keep in mind Jersey is the home turf of Exxon (started as Standard Oil of New Jersey), so if anybody opened a biodiesel station here they'd probably send a couple of guys over to have a little "chat".

Bert

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'99 Ford Escort - good MPG

I use waste motor oil that my friends give me rather than dumping it. The engine loves it and it runs much quieter than ULSD. I try to keep the ratio somewhere around 40/60 ULSD/WMO. There is a little smoke at startup, but none after that. Straight ULSD always smokes...

Fuel options are cool an I like the story about forgetting the wallet!

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Here's the full report:

http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fuel_additive_test.pdf

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2001 E55
1998 M3
1982 320i

Have you done this very much? I have run my car on just about anything that will burn but WMO was my least favorite option.

We are only talking 1-2 liters of bio per tank. You can do that in your kitchen with heet, drano and vegetable oil.

You can''t get the lubricity additive refiners use, and ULSD doesn't have enough to support kerosene as well. Winter fuel mixes of #1 and #2 must be treated with additional lubricity additives to bring it back to spec.

Check out this .pdf. http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/meeting/2003/022003bosch.pdf

It shows the current EN spec for lubricity and how it relates to pump wear for various IPs. It also tells me the current spec for US ULSD of 520 is already inadequate.

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'01 VW Beetle TDI
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD
'89 Toyota 4x4, needs 2L-T
'78 280Z with L28ET - 12.86@110
Oil Burner Kartel #35

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Delta - That report is more insightful (inciteful?); I still question why commercially "additized" LSD and ULSD were not included for comparrision purposes. That report does say the lubrication properties of LSD vs ULSD changed by ~12.5%.....

I'm not a Chemist or Petroleum Engr and so may be mistaken, but seems to me some products that were tested MAY have been engineered to perfrom to a different standard had the ASTM additives been present in the test fuel? Most of us can't purchase "un-additized" fuel after all.

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N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama

09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA)
09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.)

There is another explanation: Snake oil.

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'83 240D with 617.952 and 2.88
'01 VW Beetle TDI
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD
'89 Toyota 4x4, needs 2L-T
'78 280Z with L28ET - 12.86@110
Oil Burner Kartel #35

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...oD/bioclip.jpg