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Group Buy? Jeep Liberty CRD GT2256v -> T3 Adapter
I am trying to see if anyone else is interested in doing this. The turbos are relatively cheap @ ~ $100 on ebay and there are no adapters for these out there. If this is something you might be interested in speak up. I will of course be collecting monies before anything really happens but I need a head count so I can get an idea of how much it is going to cost per adapter.
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I might be game. Any good solutions to controling the turbo yet?
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What are the advantages of this turbo?
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Boost as soon as you step on the go pedal.
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so what are you talking about? a turbo off a liberty, or an adapter to use
a jeep liberty turbo on a MB 617? There is a Garratt turbo for a liberty on e-bay now. Charlie
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I doubt there would be enough interest in a group buy. The task of controlling the turbo, modifying the oil supply/return lines, fabricating an exhaust adapter and adapting the air filter would be pretty daunting for most.
For those with the will to work for it, the results are WELL worth the effort. |
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FI: Would you please state some of your common boost levels at certain rpms? I know you had said 6psi on the off ramp with the foot off the pedal. [edit] this is from FI's sig, his turbo is a gt2256v from a MB, the same turbo different flange is on the Liberty CRD AKA Jeep Cherokee CRD. Quote:
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Properly controlling the boost in a turbo or supercharged car is not a trivial task and its certainly not for the faint of heart.
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Would the adapter work on a OM602? Or is the manifold bolt pattern different than for a OM617?
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They both use the T3 manifold. Fitting it in there might be a chore, the 201/124 engine bays looked cramped to me. However the Finns have fit all kinds of larger turbos.
Tim: All you need is a wastegate like boost controller. No big deal. FI has had his running for quite some time now. In the mean time as soon as I can get the thing bolted on and running I will start working with the available parameters that I have electronic signals for, boost and tach to see if a low cost electric solution is possible. There is absolutely no comparison between the WW2 era T3 that is stock and a VNT turbo.
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I am game.
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The thread runs over 10 pages ( I got tired or reading after about the sixth page - I've got to admit my interest in this kind of project is very low).
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You should try changing your thread count to 50 per page, it makes for an easier read. Rerouting oil, exhaust, modifying a simple intake and attaching a boost controller is not rocket science. I would bet the total cost of the project is around $400 or less, and that includes a spare manifold and oil tubing set. FI has already done a lot of the exploratory work on his own, thus paving the path for those of us who would like to apply some basic technology. Compared to any of the other options this would appear to be the least cost, with the greatest amount of potential. There is no reason we should be restricted to a turbo that is of WW2 vintage. The first VNT was released in 89, it is not like I am trying to add an ECU from a 2000+ mb.
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Is the GT2256V turbo just a bit on the small side???? Would a GT2259, VNT25, or GT2359 be better suited?
What about this: http://cgi.ebay.com/GARRETT-REMANNED-CHRYLSER-VNT-TURBOCHARGER-T3-TURBO_W0QQitemZ300160344654QQihZ020QQcategoryZ33742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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