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Old 10-30-2007, 01:57 PM
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Sounds like I'm up to snuff then (other than the antigel.)
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:02 PM
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Don't forget the anti-gell, if your fuel gells you are really SOL.

I have used Power Service in the white bottle for years, its cheap and they claim that if the fuel gells they will pay for your tow.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:23 PM
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You may be able to find out from your fuel station if they add anything to the fuel, I also use Power Service, but the silver/gray jug, no anti gel, don't need it around here. I use it for the cetane boost properties. This is interesting.

Cetane number - Wikipedia,
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:04 PM
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Interesting reading... sounds like, since cetane plateaus at 55, you can't really OD (other than financially) with a cetane booster. I'm assuming you can add a cetane booster to an antigel agent without adverse affects? The reason I ask is that I have quite a bit of antigel that I use for my tractor (has no cetane booster) and the cetane booster/injector cleaner I bought for my 123 has no antigel component.

live & learn...

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other fine diesels...
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'95 John Deere 970 (Yanmar quad)
'11 BMW 335d
'12 VW Jetta TDI

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Old 10-31-2007, 08:54 PM
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Yes, as a matter of fact, Power Service in the white jug has both, but no lubricants. Nowadays, I add a bit of ATF at every fill up, so I could use either one, don't know the price difference. I've noticed slightly increased fuel mileage also, with just ATF.
Just replaced fuel filters in the SD today, and use PS to fill up the secondary filter, cracked open the banjo bolt on top, primed the primary filter, started up normal, coughed twice, then steady idling.

I agree on the more not harmful thought, I filled up one time at a Texaco, or Shell station that had 50 cetane.

I like to put as much in my favor as I can, and do not want to be stranded anywhere, I leave work at 4:30 am, no electrical outlet to plug in the block heater. PS only in winter.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:58 PM
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I will probably use Power Service this winter too. I'm going to pick some up this week so I am ready when I fill my tank next (still over a week until I will need to do that.)

Since the stuff is fairly expensive, how much do you usually add to the tank for an "optimal cetane boost, without being too much/overkill"? I only use about a 1 to 1.5 tanks a month during the winter, so cost isn't a huge issue....but I'd still like to know I'm not needlessly wasting it.

When you say you are adding ATF to the tank....how much are you adding? And is it just normal generic dino dexron? I've heard it can cause injector coking if you do this....?
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:22 AM
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I used the Howes as their brown "Meaner Cleaner" mixed very well with the bio/dino mix I run.

Love the 606. Starts right up. ( the 95 has no black boxes, but has the plastic shroud.)

Unfortunatly I might be finding out how easy they are to work on this winter as I might pull the head for a freshening.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:00 AM
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Do you have any reading regarding the ATF addition? I'm curious about the perceived benefits...

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Unfortunatly I might be finding out how easy they are to work on this winter as I might pull the head for a freshening.
Let me know how this goes... I purchased my 96 with the idea it was easy to work on (at least that's what I read.) I'm not much of a mechanic, but can muddle through most things needing to be done (provided I have the tool needed.) I was dismayed though when I went to do a glowplug test on the 96 and found that I would have to do a good bit of dismantling too even see the glow plugs. I prefer stuff to be out in the open (one of the spurring factors in the purchasing of the '84 300DT) where you can at least see it! (This is all kind of moot, as my hands are too large to even get my fingers on the exposed glowplugs (let alone change them) on the '84.) Ah... to be able to afford a few hours of a MB mechanic's time!

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'96 300d (226K miles)
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other fine diesels...
'99 Polaris diesel (Fuji Heavy Industries single)
'01 Diesel Trail gator (Yanmar triple)
'95 John Deere 970 (Yanmar quad)
'11 BMW 335d
'12 VW Jetta TDI

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'00 BMW K1200LT
'02 BMW R1150RS

'15 BMW R1200GSA

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Old 11-02-2007, 11:44 AM
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landev,

I don't think anything after the 616/617 engines is easy to fix. Just changing the GP on my 603 engine was a major undertaking, in my opinion. I shouold not have to take off the intake manifold, just to change the GP. The engine should have been designer for easier access to the GP.

And those cheap (and I mean low quality, not low cost) plastic clips on the 603 fuel injection lines are a disgrace to MB. What happened to the metal clips that were on the 617 engines that never broke.



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Old 11-02-2007, 01:49 PM
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Holy crap John, -90? I've never heard of it getting that cold anywhere in the states.
OK, I may have exaggerated a bit... I left there when I was 16... but if you factor in the wind chill, approx 70mph winds... BBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! I do remember one winter where the gas cars would not start, we had to drain the antifreeze, bring it in the house, and heat it on the coal furnace, and warm up the battery before it would even crank... then the fuel would just plug up the filters.
but that tractor with the twin block heaters just purred along... no cab, driving through a blizzard... no fun.
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