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Old 11-01-2007, 05:32 PM
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Yep, your right. It's not going to be cost effective if you not producing your own "Brown's gas" (AKA), HHO & HOH. http://www.takeaction.com.au/hoh/
I'll tell you one thing: I would not have a tank of compressed "Brown's gas" anywhere. That's also known as a "bomb."

However, it may be that the future holds cheaper sources of compressed hydrogen gas for automotive use. It's expensive now because there is no demand. When gasoline cars were new, people bought their fuel in gallon tins at the hardware store for a lot more than the equivalent of $3/gallon.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:39 PM
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Unfortunatly Browns Gas like any other electrolysis of water takes far more electricity than the energy that you can get back when you burn it or run it thru a fuel cell. The Browns Gas welder that is available uses thousands of watts.

As far as improvements in emissions and SMALL improvements in fuel economy, it will work. When I was running propane injection, I could go slightly farther on 9 gallons of diesel and 1 gallon of propane than I could on 10 gallons of diesel alone.

I have found that injecting small amounts of practically any combustable fluid into the intake of a diesel will improve combustion some as long as the mixture is too lean to ignite before the diesel is injected.

So far, I have tried propane, butane, butinol, ethanol, methanol, gasoline, paint thinner, turpentine, mineral spirits, methane, hydrogen, kerosine, and even heated diesel fuel. Suprisingly, even the diesel fuel made about a 5% improvement in fuel economy but I had to use a very small nozzle and 100psi to get it to atomize well. The kerosene also needed 100psi but didn't need to be heated.

The other liquid fuels were injected into the intake with a standard gasoline EFI injector.

Turpentine, propane and gasoline worked the best for fuel economy. Propane and the alcohols worked best for power. Gasoline was the most cost effective and the lower the grade, the better.

I tried peppermint oil just to see what it would smell like but not enough to see how it would effect combustion. I also tried atomized melted butter to see if it would combust without making smoke. I did not make smoke but the exhaust smelled like popcorn and the idle went up by about 300 rpm so it was adding to the engines output.
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'83 300 Turbo Diesel 2 tank WVO
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'83 Mercedes 240D
'80 Audi 4000D
'83 ISUZU Pup
'70 SAAB 99 with Kubota diesel
'76 Honda Civic with Kubota diesel
'86 Golf
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