Is it supply and demand?........or is the consumer taking a royal poke up the butt??
I just topped off my tank at Bursaws Oil in Acton Ma. and was surprised to see the price of B99 Biodiesel at $3.49. ITS SOY BEAN OIL from the US....NOT ARABIAN PETROLEUM! WHO IS SCREWING WHO?

Here is a major opportunity for an emerging industry ie. fuel suppliers and distributors to push an emerging fuel source to the front of the line while petroleum is at a record high of almost $100/brl. and get main stream America to notice it and use it for transportation and home heating.
I think the greedy bastards are blowing it big time!

I don't know about you....but right now I feel like my attemps to do the right thing by using BioFuels is being manipulated and taken advantage of...............

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Daily Driver: 98 E300TD 199K
Hobby Car: 69 Austin Mini
Past Diesels: 84 300SD, 312K
87 300SDL, 251K
94 Chev. K-1500 6.5Ltr.TD, 373K

Here in Wisconsin regular diesel is $3.39 at the flying J.

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1978 450 SEL 6.9 euro restoration at 63% and climbing
1987 300 D
2005 CDI European Delivery
2006 CDI Handed down to daughter
2007 GL CDI. Wifes

Here Dino Diesel has jumped to between $3.33 and $3.39......but I still do not understand the jump and high dollar increase of BioDiesel paralleling petroleum prices.
Are SoyBean and BioDiesel futures going nutty?

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FRED

Daily Driver: 98 E300TD 199K
Hobby Car: 69 Austin Mini
Past Diesels: 84 300SD, 312K
87 300SDL, 251K
94 Chev. K-1500 6.5Ltr.TD, 373K

Because they can make more profit.

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1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Heating oil , kerosene, and xmas truck traffic are peaking now. Come back in May

$3.50 would be cheap by today's standard. I just filled up today with D2 for $3.70 a gallon. There's a place here in a nearby town that also charged $3.50 a gallon for B99 made from WVO and that was back when D2 was less than $3. That's one reason I stopped using it. Perhaps their supply was limited, but still I think it's either arrogance or incompetence to charge so much for something made from local used grease.

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Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

I started to type that bio has stayed the same here for months ($3.38) because I just filled up for that the other day, but then I went to check the website of the coop, and I see it has jumped up to $3.58!

Petro diesel is $3.49 here.

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VegPower. Waste Vegatable Oil is the way I'm headed. It's the main reason I purchased my SD300. The reality that I can drive for free (nearly) is overwhelming. I drive 100 plus miles daily. Can't wait to pull the plug on the oil companies even those Biodiesel folks.

I'm not much for saving the environment, I just want to save my dollars. A WVO will save me appox. 5,000 dollars a year. That's money that will be better spent maintaining my Benz:-)

Of course they are screwing you. You didn't think the "No blood for oil" stickers are free did you? You don't think they are doing it for the environment, do you? They whip you up into a frenzy to use their "better" product and pay more for them. I talked to the local fill spot. For $150 a year, I will have paid for the privilege of buying it at $0.70 more than D2. Otherwise, I can pay over a dollar more. Their reason? Well, if we wanted to be completive because we wanted a larger customer base, we would lower the price or words to that effect. Now they are making it more like $0.30 for members and $0.70 for non-members MORE than D2. Guess they are getting more hard up for customers. Of course, this is winter pricing and summer is a lot higher.

But hey. You did get the cool sticker, right?

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99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Food and biofuels share common raw materials, causing an increase in price due to supply and demand. Corn-based foods are going up too -- competition with ethanol. Biodiesel production is probably hitting a threshold where it is causing price increases for oil crops now.

We'd have to figure out how to produce biofuel raw materials without competing with other uses for those resources (tillable land, fertilizer, etc.) before they can be decoupled like petro fuels and foods were before. I don't think it can be done, so might as well get used to it.

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True. However, sooner or later it will get scarce because biofuels are buying it up. Further to that, that $5000 now means I have less free time. Again, NILIF. Spend money or spend time. I'd rather spend the money to have free time.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Yeah but with the right "infrastructure" I'll cut the amount of time I spend collecting oil. I only need 20 barrels a year. 500 miles per week * 52 weeks / 25 mpg (conservative) = 18 barrels a year.

And with 12 billion gallons of waste veggie oil produced in the USA every year, I figure it'll be some time before I have to worry about the supply drying up.

And with the right kit I can take WVO from a restaurants waste barrel straight to my second fuel tank. It takes less time than going to the fueling station, no lines to stand in no waiting for the ONE diesel pump to become available and NO CREDIT CARDS to authorize.

It truly will be a sunny day.......

Aklim...I'm with you...time is more important than the money....I won't be collecting grease and spending my valuable weekends brewing anytime soon

But I would be curious what a barrel of raw soybean oil costs compared to a barrel of crude oil before the process......

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Daily Driver: 98 E300TD 199K
Hobby Car: 69 Austin Mini
Past Diesels: 84 300SD, 312K
87 300SDL, 251K
94 Chev. K-1500 6.5Ltr.TD, 373K

And to further add insult to injury. I live in New York, where u can't even buy a new non-commercial diesel anymore. This has caused the supply of diesel to slowly dry up. New Stations are being built w/o Diesel pumps and older equipped stations with diesel pumps are not even filling thier diesel tanks anymore. Eventually I'll have to start using Veggie oil or park my car or use kerosene or MOVE. The last option is looking better all the time.

Not to beat a dead horse, but it is possible to spend less time filling up a WVO tank, than it is to fill up at Exxon or some such.


Less time, less money, eh hum, taste great.........

See u on the other side. Besides if you've ever driven a WVO powered vehicle you'd know the shear exelleration you get everytime you step on the go pedal knowing it ain't costing you a dime. (sic; very little). I'm sold.

Free time. I'll eventually be able to cut my work week to 4 days instead of five. Now that's free time.