wow!!! 4" 1500WATTS!!! I wonder what THEY cost??

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I don't really care about the environment. If I had the money I'd go out tomarrow and buy a super charged 9mpg Range Rover Sport.

Fuel is cheap, F the rest of the world, lets enjoy it while we got it.

Besides biodiesel, WVO, E85, electric cars, hybrid cars are all BS. We could never make enough of the other fuels to put a meaningfull dent in our oil usage. They are all fringe fuels and marginaly affective technoligy.


Fuel cells, are the only real solution and they are a decade away at best. Expensive fuel and government prodding may speed that along, its amazing how well the market works. If fuel went to $6 a gallon tomarrow you can bet we would see fuel cell powered cars in less than 5 years.

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the environment is nice to hang out in though...
there's so much land unused, and such nice technology to create whatever manipulated crop that gives loads of oil, why not? Algae I heard gives a lot of oil per area used. now farmers have to be subsidized, if they'd produce oil maybe not...
it's a shame how big oil, the car companies and the government work together planning how all oil, till the last drop, will be used and paid for.
using biodiesel whenever I can makes me feel better, by not being part of that plan.

Because I can live without a car, I need to eat. I don't want to ruin valuable farm land to fuel our cars. Besides even if you devoted the entire farming capacity of this country to only ethonal production, we would still not make enough to cover what we use.

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I would argue that. It depends on the crops. And if someone mentions Ethiopia, I have an answer for that too. There is easly enough food being produced in the world right now to feed twice the world population. The problems are governments, wars, logistics, and people themselves. (Just to appese conspiracy theorists, I'll add world dominating secret societies.)
Governments have been withholding many technologies from farmers. When my dad was working in the research council, there were grains 10 years ago that would produce 300 bu/acre on land that woudl normally produce 40 bu/acre. At that time, (almost 15 years ago) they were developing these crops for making fuel.
From what I have heard, there is enough oil in Alberta to fuel the world for the next 100 years at the present rate of growth x10.
Russia is an ironic case. They have a huge supply of oil. Enough to drive world prices down a lot if they would open the tap. Gasoline in Russia last I hear was the equivilant of $.16/L. Don't expect them to do that though. They still remember that the west couldn't be botherd to send a few boxes of toilet paper and light bulbs after the people toppled our most powerful enemy. Who could blame them for wanting cheap oil for themselves??

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I SECOND THIS POST, HG!

Lets just make like aturtle and go hide underneath our jacked up car and pretend nothing is going to change and that diesel will always be 3.77 a gallon...I can bet next year--its $4.50---what we need here is more posts about how to make the dash look shiney and how to replace the little bulb on the shifter--now thats really important stuff--forget about how we dieselheads are going to have to stay viable

You'll care about the environment when its really messed up and food crops die and there's no fuel left to keep everything going.....and everyone starts chaos and mayhem over starvation and desperate situations.

Remember, earth is all we currently have, if we break it, we've got nowhere else to go but 6 feet under.


I am not an "environmental tree hugger" person, but I do think we need to adopt MUCH more efficient and conservative ways of living. Everything needs to be closer together, things need to be streamlined, waste needs to be eliminated as much as possible, etc. Follow a Euro-style way of life except even more-so. Then we may achieve a potentially sustainable way of living. Burning 87 million barrels of oil a day isn't possible forever. Exactly 0 new barrels form in the earth per day....so its -87million per day. Not a good way to go....and even more important than the oil consumption not being sustainable, is the enormous amount of carbon dioxide we pump into the air every day. Its planet-altering-huge amounts. Its going to haunt us someday, and its already starting.

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you're cool my man, but I think the people that listen are on other forums...

hey, I'm looking for some right wing bumper stickers for my avatar, can you get those too? or something about hunting, having a gun or black people being less valuable than white ones?
anything really, in yellow and black, will do

Well we didnt design ourselves ( as humans) We hate ourselves only because we have a consciousness.
I mean if Dinasours had multiplied to 400 billion and were driving luxury cars and living in Manhattan Condo's, do you think they would have the intellectual reflections that they were using up the world's resources, do you think they would care? No they would only be focused on the next day's dinner...'cause they were dinasours.

Unfortunately though we have a self consciousness, we are ...uh ...very human.. The next form of life that supersedes us will either have a super high consciousness and ability to conserve resources, but we all want to outdo the guy next door or are worried about just saving our individual neck, not everyone's neck. I dont think we wil change in the next 1000 years or evn 100 years because if you read literature from 1400, we still think the same.

You live in Milford? How long can you tread water?

Sadly, the view that "fuel is cheap now and I'll deal with the repercussions later" is myopic and self-centered. I just don't understand why people are so unwilling to put in a little effort now when we know that eventually we are going to run out of this resource. (Remember, it's used to heat our homes and make plastics as well-imagine life without it. Oil fuels the farmers equipment and the trucks that bring the food to your market. No need to go on, you get the point.) We are completely and totally dependent on oil which you must admit puts our nation at risk.

Maybe you can afford $4-5/gallon. Truly, I'm happy for you. But there are others that struggle to get by. When oil goes up, the price of everything goes up.

And then there's the whole treading water thing....


Again, I disagree, this a good post for Diesel D, no need to move it. If you don't care about it, don't read it. (Certainly there are other posts you skip, no?) I don't mind being challenged-but let's keep the posts on the intellectual high road.

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I love the environment. I hate diesels. I think electric cars are the solution. I think planting crops for fuel is crap. I think the water is rising around the world. Blah blah blah.


Great discussion on the facts and issues of a Mercedes diesel here- eh?

and how this relates to old MB diesels:

when oil dries up, gasoline is simply nonexistent, everybody is fighting over road kill, and your neighborhood starts to look like a scene from the road warrior, youll be able to pour just about anything in the tank of your 617 and run for the hills

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