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Old 11-23-2007, 12:21 PM
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What is the speed limit on the road? What was the traffic like?

Assume the speed on the road was 30mph and he stopped mid block and you hit him. Either the speed you were traveling at would have caused that type of "speed" damage or you would have had to brake hard? to try to avoid an accident. You don't have ABS where are the rubber tracks? Your cars nose would dive down on deceleration. Even if he does not have damage, the damage of your car will mate with his truck. So it is reasonable to assume that his backing into you can be proven.

People who investigate these issues if competent will get to the truth. It will not be the first nor the first 100th time they have heard the same stories (think of all the parking lot accidents). They know what questions to ask and how to ask them, they know what to look for in physical evidence.

The question is...

Will they spend the $$ necessary to get to truth or is it cheaper for them to close the book quickly.

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Old 11-23-2007, 12:24 PM
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:35 PM
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you are on top of things on here jimmy
Well, I'm not on top of the person driving in front of me.......


As far as the deceleration dropping the nose, they can just say that you didn't hit your brakes. I just don't see you winning on this one, but that still doesn't mean not to pursue it.
I hated to see that bent oil cooler line connection.....


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The question is...

Will they spend the $$ necessary to get to truth or is it cheaper for them to close the book quickly.
That could be the best point of all....
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:53 PM
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i felt the same when i saw the oil cooler
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:34 PM
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Its going to be very tough to prove him at fault.

You stated the speed limit was 25mph so you should have been roughly 2.5 car lengths behind his truck at this speed.

The investigator will see it that either you were following too close, going too fast and/or, had a delayed reaction time (try not to mention the dogs name).

Looking at the damage... looks like he was doing the speed limit in reverse when he hit you.

If he was under hard acceleration backing the rear of his truck may be lifted slightly. Could look as though your vehicle was diving under hard braking.

I feel for your loss and wish you luck.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:46 PM
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Its going to be very tough to prove him at fault.

You stated the speed limit was 25mph so you should have been roughly 2.5 car lengths behind his truck at this speed.

The investigator will see it that either you were following too close, going too fast and/or, had a delayed reaction time (try not to mention the dogs name).

Looking at the damage... looks like he was doing the speed limit in reverse when he hit you.

If he was under hard acceleration backing the rear of his truck may be lifted slightly. Could look as though your vehicle was diving under hard braking.
Looks like the kid was riding the PU truck's a** from 2-4 feet away, as he stated. PU driver got tired of being tailgated, slammed-on brakes......splash one tailgater.

Tailgater now claims his front end was demolished at high-speed from a PU truck in reverse....... LMAO!

Unreal........
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I do not know the status of polygraph tests in your area. Might ask the state trooper. Other than something like that there is just no hope in my opinion.
If you took one and submitted it to his insurance company I have to wonder if they might ask him? But since not in their interest to pay out very, very, unlikely. Once in awhile in life we take a **** kicking it seems. Just hopefully not too often.
I had a department of enviroment person destroy a septic field of mine for example awhile ago. We are still at it.
They are trying about everything they can not to settle it. I at present have not formulated a good stratagy to deal with them.
I am considering laying a charge of private property destruction followed by a small lawsuit. This might be money down the drain as you cannot take the government to small claims court. So the legal costs are high and they like to appeal as they have quite a few lawyers either on staff or retained.
If I eventually get upset they might wish they had paid up. No violence but one of my creative approaches.
Even a special meeting with the provincial deputy minister achieved little other than they are working on it. As usual they do not want to admit liability by direct payment so they suggested a grant. Of course when approached I do not qualify as income is too high and other things interfered. Ten thousand upwards for a new septic bed in this area. Mostley upward.
In general these types of things are quite frustrating in themselves. If there is a bright side it is that he has not claimed whiplash or whatever yet.

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Old 11-23-2007, 08:56 PM
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Do you really believe that he is lying? Could be, but I don't see anything constructive about you appointing yourself as Judge, jury, and executioner.

As far as proving fault. If you have photos of the vehicles before being moved, there might be enough evidence from glass etc. ejected during the impact. It looks like it was probably about a 5mph impact, possibly enough to knock the car backwards a few feet? High-res photgraphs at the scene might show the story, might not, and even that depends on whether you can get an audience from your state's forensics lab. Basically chances are grim.

The dive & height issues might show that you weren't decelerating during the impact, ... but it could be argued that your foot slipped off of the brake or you didn't brake causing the height match. Not a valid angle if I were the other driver's attorney.

The other issue that comes up is the cost vs benefit. If you are in a no-fault state, you have to look at your deductible and coverage. If you have substantial money to gain and can wait for the decision, go for it. If not, might be time to take your lumps. When I was young I went to an attorney to contest my insurance company's payment for an accident, the attorney would have taken as much money as I had hoped to gain, ...
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:26 PM
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I'm with lamont. Isn't there a law against stopping in the middle of the road without a good reason? Steve
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:02 PM
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I had a similar thing happen to me in a McDonalds drive through, guy got tired of waiting put it in reverse and floored it. slamming into me and crushing his trunk. the police had already written it up as my fault and asked me to sign the report. Luckily the guy who hit me was a stand up guy and admitted fault. there are so many scams out there hopefully you are just up against a deadbeat and not a scammer. good luck with it. Your police there should have taken pictures and done more it sounds like. I was in an accident where a guy swerved into my lane and denied it. The investigator said rust and debris falls straight down in a kind of outline of the vehicles and more at the impact at the moment of impact, from this he determined the guy was in my lane. maybe there was a way to see the crap fell in front of the truck and not behind showing he was moving backward, but if you moved the vehicles or the data wasnt taken its moot now.
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Looks like the kid was riding the PU truck's a** from 2-4 feet away, as he stated. PU driver got tired of being tailgated, slammed-on brakes......splash one tailgater.

Tailgater now claims his front end was demolished at high-speed from a PU truck in reverse....... LMAO!

Unreal........
i am with jimmy et all with you skid. you need to learn how to pay attention to detail when you read. especially when it has been said 3 to 4 times over and over.

baby mog... i didn't even think about your point of stuf falling. a piece of my fan shroud was about 1.5 feet infront of my car and i was kicking it around... d@mnit.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:08 PM
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You're a real pain in the butt in this thread, and I can't figure out a reason for it. Maybe just the thrill of being a prick I guess......
Can we vote him off the island?
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:19 AM
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i am with jimmy et all with you skid. you need to learn how to pay attention to detail when you read. especially when it has been said 3 to 4 times over and over.

baby mog... i didn't even think about your point of stuf falling. a piece of my fan shroud was about 1.5 feet infront of my car and i was kicking it around... d@mnit.DUH!


As dumb as you are, it might take 15-20 times of telling you to quit being a crybaby, and fess-up. You put people's lives in danger slamming your dumb car into theirs!

You were likely out playing NASCAR with your dumb police dog, and that unsafe old 4-door, when this old codger got fed up with your punk a** antics, and slammed on his brakes. You crawled up this truck's a**, then want to get a pass on it by crying on a national thread.. Where's your state trooper brother, wimp? Grow up, a** riding punk! Pay your bill for terrorizing that old man.

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Old 11-24-2007, 12:24 AM
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Hey Mods, how about putting Skid Mark Joe in time-out!!
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:25 AM
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Hey Mods, how about putting Skid Mark Joe in time-out!!

No place for this kind of stuff here!!


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As dumb as you are, it might take 15-20 times of telling you to quit being a crybaby, and fess-up. You put people's lives in danger slamming your dumb car into theirs!

You were likely out playing NASCAR with your dumb police dog, and that unsafe old 4-door, when this old codger got fed up with your punk a** antics, and slammed on his brakes. You crawled up this truck's a**, then want to get a pass on it by crying on a national thread.. Where's your state trooper brother, wimp? Grow up, a** riding punk! Pay your bill for terrorizing that old man.

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