Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes ShopForum > Technical Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-03-2007, 08:36 PM
Mat Mat is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8
using Jet A in a Mercedes Diesel

Hello all,

I have heard that the major reason not to run Jet A in a diesel, is the lack of lubrication additives for the injector pump and reciprocating engine. Does anyone know what can be added to make it an acceptable fuel, if so what mix ratio and where do I get it. I have access to about a 1000 gallons at no cost.
Thanks Matt
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-03-2007, 08:44 PM
PanzerSD's Avatar
Schießenstern
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
Posts: 2,351
Good Question.....

if I may ask how does one get ahold of 1000 gallons for free?
__________________
RIP: 80 300SD
RIP: 79 450SEL
2002 E430 4matic (212,000km)

____________________________
FACEBOOK:
PANZER450
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-03-2007, 08:45 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunrise, FL
Posts: 2,053
Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerSD View Post
Good Question.....

if I may ask how does one get ahold of 1000 gallons for free?
yea, spill it
__________________
81 Mercedes 300SD 289k.......SOLD
82 Mercedes 300CD 252k......slow ride

82 mercedes 300 SD...mi Unknown
83 Mercedes 300D ????ksniff..gone too
84 Mercedes 300D 148k........SOLD
85 Mercedes 300TD 386k and holding some one elses project
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-03-2007, 08:51 PM
SuperNatural's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 15
I have a friend who is a pilot, and uses Jet A in his mb. I will ask to see if there are any issues. Since it's free I don't think he cares
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-03-2007, 08:55 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 14,868
Yeah really, with the savings on that you could get a new engine every 2-3 years....so I doubt it would be a huge concern. If it is, you can always dump in a bottle of Power Service or Redline Catalyst to give it lubricity.


Also, WHERE can I get some free Jet A?!?

I did get 14.8 gallons of diesel free today from my credit card/speedway rewards program though. $53 worth...free! Its always nice to have the needle go from 1/4 tank to incredibly full and know it didn't cost anything.
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'89 420SEL 164k - mine (OC-167,000)
'93 190D 2.2 - 226k - mine (OC-228,700)
'01 E320 Wagon - 156k - mine (OC-160,000)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 3k - wifes (OC-13k)
'01 E320 - 165k - Dad's (OC-165,500)
'07 E350 Wagon - 120k - dad's (OC-121,500)
'01 SL500 - 43k - dad's (OC-47,000)
'09 E350 4matic Sedan - 102k - Brothers (OC-104,500)

Last edited by pawoSD; 12-04-2007 at 12:50 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-03-2007, 08:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 8,492
Here is what you need:
http://www.fppf.com/lubricity100.asp
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-03-2007, 09:10 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Piscataway, NJ
Posts: 30
Bio

I would think a bit of biodiesel would do the trick, anyone tried that?

prc
__________________
1986 300SDL 175k
2003 VW Passat Wagon 58k
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-03-2007, 09:23 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: my own little world
Posts: 320
Ive long since moved to the dark side (flying them instead of fixing them). Years ago a certain amount of fuel was drained from all jets tanks to check for contaminants, rarely was any found, but this fuel was drummed and disposed of. Back in the early 80's we had a piot who bought a diesel rabbit, every few days we'd sneak out to the parking lot and put a few gallons of jet a in. He believed for months that he was getting 75 miles to the gallon, and was not bashful about telling anyone. When we stopped he took the car to the dealer and *****ed up a storm at their service department. I still chuckle over it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-03-2007, 09:39 PM
Wayne
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Rockport, TX
Posts: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mat View Post
Hello all,

I have heard that the major reason not to run Jet A in a diesel, is the lack of lubrication additives for the injector pump and reciprocating engine. Does anyone know what can be added to make it an acceptable fuel, if so what mix ratio and where do I get it. I have access to about a 1000 gallons at no cost.
Thanks Matt
I run Jet A1 in my 350D. I add a quart of Marvel Mystery oil per 25 gallons and 3/4 oz per gallon of Power Services Diesel Supplement. A couple things you need to check for: make sure the fuel is clear, cloudy means lots of suspended water, and there isn't anything growing in it. You may also want to see if you can find out what additives are in the fuel. We use Biobor in ours, so algae growth is not a concern.I filter mine through a paint strainer into my storage drums and then filter it before it goes in the tank. If your engine runs hotter than normal, add more oil. I've had friends using turbine in their vehicles for many years, one has overe 400K on his Chevy and as long as you make sure the fuel is clean and mixed as above you won't run into any probelms. At least we haven't.
Wayne
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-03-2007, 11:30 PM
W210 E300TD Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 356
I would think a good slug of B99 biodiesel, or even some virgin vegetable oil mixed in would cure any lubricity problems. Of course, I've never tried it with jet fuel, so my opinion is worth the $0 it cost you.

Cheers, John
__________________
'98 E300TD (W210) | Sold 6/09 with 205k and counting
'04 VW Touareg V10TDI
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-03-2007, 11:33 PM
lietuviai's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SW WA
Posts: 5,741
Add some transmission fluid.
__________________
DJ


84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-03-2007, 11:49 PM
Diesel911's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Long Beach,CA
Posts: 23,563
What is the cost of Jet A1?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-04-2007, 12:31 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Boca Raton / NYC
Posts: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel911 View Post
What is the cost of Jet A1?
and where can we buy it?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-04-2007, 12:37 AM
Wayne
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Rockport, TX
Posts: 87
At the airport and about 4.50/gallon last week.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-04-2007, 12:54 AM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 14,868
Are the airlines paying $4.50 a gallon??? If they are...WHOA.

A trans-Atlantic flight can consume over 3,500 gallons of fuel on a large jet/fully loaded. Its just crazy to think about, at every moment, there are hundreds and hundreds (thousands probably) of jets flying around, all burning ginormous amounts of fuel.....its...just not sustainable forever. Someday we're going to have a bunch of jets sitting around.....

Short-haul flights are one of the most inefficient ways of travel.....its crazy.

3500 * 4.50 = $15,750!!! Now THAT is a costly fill-up!
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'89 420SEL 164k - mine (OC-167,000)
'93 190D 2.2 - 226k - mine (OC-228,700)
'01 E320 Wagon - 156k - mine (OC-160,000)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 3k - wifes (OC-13k)
'01 E320 - 165k - Dad's (OC-165,500)
'07 E350 Wagon - 120k - dad's (OC-121,500)
'01 SL500 - 43k - dad's (OC-47,000)
'09 E350 4matic Sedan - 102k - Brothers (OC-104,500)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page