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Old 01-03-2008, 01:02 AM
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After checking everything ELSE recommended on this forum, it got dowm to pump timing.
Nobody even suggested pump timing because the original post discussed R & R of the head.

So, what begs the question is how you possibly ended up with the IP so far off the crankshaft? The chain should have remained on both those sprockets during the head removal.

There's more to this story...............

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Old 01-03-2008, 10:10 AM
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Damn good question, Brian ... and now for the rest of the story

Originally, this was a 'no fuel at the injector issue' .... think I had not primed hard enough to open the bypass in the pump. My bad. But then .... once there was fuel there, it still wouldn't start. I believe a couple of posters thought about pump timing ... even the things that some guys here suggested that didn't fix it were very helpful in eliminating stuff that wasn't the problem.

Of course the chain did remain on the short block. Digressing a bit, I had removed a good head from a completely different motor with a bad crank snout and put it on that short block. Since there was no trans in the car either, I had pulled the short block out, installed the head, all accessories and trans and put it back in the car as a unit.

Before I put the motor together however, I had put a wrench on the short block crank bolt and rolled it over a turn ... just to be sure it would turn over smooth .... had been apart for a year or more and I did not 'know' the motor ... only going on the word of a German MBZ shop owner. Turned smoothly ... so I rolled the motor until No1 piston was back up to TDC while a helper held the chain up all the while and then I completed assembling the engine.

Either one of these things may have happened
... the loose chain did not take the IP sprocket with it as I turned the motor over OR the pump was timed way wrong to begin with.

Since the bolts on the oil filter housing weren't very tight when I removed them ... and ..... the one had been rounded out by someone apparently using an allen wrench of the wrong size: it seems that the oil filter housing had been removed prior to me ..... perhaps to take out the IP .... if that was the case, it was put back in way wrong .... and perhaps that's what was wrong with THAT car to begin with .... interesting, eh? .... that's my story
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:16 AM
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.... interesting, eh? .... that's my story
Very interesting. Clearly, a simple R & R of the head could not have caused such a large deviation in IP timing. You've done some radical parts changing............and somehow, the IP timing got displaced in the process.
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:01 PM
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Radical, bro' ... .... I have a bunch of papers that came with this car sooo .... I'm gonna look in 'em for the original RO .... wonder what the customer's initial complaint on this vehicle really was???? What was diag'd by the shop and how the owner came to let the car get liened by the shop .... ?? I think I was a slueth (not sloth) in another life ....

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