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Old 01-02-2008, 09:11 PM
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Any reliable Diesel Techs in Ocean County, NJ?

Ok, I have had this (expletive deleted) to my local guy at least once a week for the past month. No luck. Each time we think it's fixed, it's NOT. I'm rather sick of it, but I want to sell this (expletive deleted) RUNNING, not as a "limping dog" cause I need to get a decent price for this car. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. So, again, if anyone knows of a good deezel mechanic near the 08005 zip code (Barnegat Twp., Ocean County, NJ) I would be indebted for that information.

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Old 01-02-2008, 09:50 PM
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I'd really like to find out what that mechanic actually did. He certainly didn't "clear out more contamination".

But, the bottom line is that it's fixed and is running well for you. Good luck with it.

Color me Bozo the FKN clown. My face is awfully red. Got her home after a little ride, ran GREAT. Wonderful even. Went back out to start her up and I had to cycle the plugs three times to get her to keep running. Hmmm... a little worried, but ran perfect so.. no worries, right?

Yeah. Tell that to the icicles on my beard as I walked home. The car was parked for 1 hr in 30 degree weather (just looked at the thermo, it's more like low 20's). It stuttered once, then refused to fire again until the battery ran dead. Yippee!

Don't even tell me it's just the cold. I'll feel like quite the ass for the message I left with my "mechanic". In reality, I was MUCH nicer than I usually am.... but I think I came across a little exasperated. It may be a really simple problem, or even that the IP needs a rebuild. I just do not have it for this car... like the guy who dates the supermodel but he still thinks her ears are just a little too small, you know? I really actually loathe this car. I see how solid and tight it is, how smooth when it's running perfect and how long it will last.

I just don't care. Somebody help.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:05 PM
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Color me Bozo the FKN clown. My face is awfully red. Got her home after a little ride, ran GREAT. Wonderful even. Went back out to start her up and I had to cycle the plugs three times to get her to keep running. Hmmm... a little worried, but ran perfect so.. no worries, right?

Yeah. Tell that to the icicles on my beard as I walked home. The car was parked for 1 hr in 30 degree weather (just looked at the thermo, it's more like low 20's). It stuttered once, then refused to fire again until the battery ran dead. Yippee!

Don't even tell me it's just the cold. I'll feel like quite the ass for the message I left with my "mechanic". In reality, I was MUCH nicer than I usually am.... but I think I came across a little exasperated. It may be a really simple problem, or even that the IP needs a rebuild. I just do not have it for this car... like the guy who dates the supermodel but he still thinks her ears are just a little too small, you know? I really actually loathe this car. I see how solid and tight it is, how smooth when it's running perfect and how long it will last.

I just don't care. Somebody help.
Don't beat yourself up over it. These engines can get exasperating at times.

Note that you might have two separate issues. It appears that the rough running and the missing cylinder issue is solved. Am I correct with this assumption? If so, the delivery valve issue is fixed.

Now, the reason a 603 won't typically start in the cold is the failure of the glow plugs. Maybe the mechanic disturbed a wire to the relay..........or maybe the fuse has burnt. But, it might be a simple issue at this point.

Solving the problem of the missing cylinder is, by far, the most important part of this exercise, and, I believe you have done that.

After you take a break from it..........consider verifying glow plug performance........again.
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:08 PM
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Brian isn't lying. The Delivery Valve on this pump is a sensitive device. I had an 'Imports Specialist' work on my first Mercedes Diesel and the car came back having a dead cylinder. He refused to fix it. I took him to court (small claims) and lost. Much time was wasted (and money). He claimed the IP happened to go bad during the time he had the car to replace the O-ring. His lawyer pushed that this was a 20 something year old car and things wear out over time and won!

Anyways, all that to say... not all mechanics care enough to research techniques of repair. I wouldn't have known about the 3 tourque steps if I hadn't looked in the FSM after he ruined the IP. Oh well. Hindsight is very clear.


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The procedure is not complicated.

First, don't disturb the valve.

Second........there are three torque steps involved to secure the threaded cap. First step is 22 ft.-lb. and break loose. Second step is again 22 ft-lb. and break loose. Third and final step is 26 ft.-lb. This should properly load the o-ring.
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Brian isn't lying. The Delivery Valve on this pump is a sensitive device. I had an 'Imports Specialist' work on my first Mercedes Diesel and the car came back having a dead cylinder. He refused to fix it. I took him to court (small claims) and lost. Much time was wasted (and money). He claimed the IP happened to go bad during the time he had the car to replace the O-ring. His lawyer pushed that this was a 20 something year old car and things wear out over time and won!
It's really a disturbing issue. The mechanic screws up the vehicle and won't properly fix his mistake.

You take him to court and attempt to prove that he's the one at fault.

But........he's the mechanic...........and you are Joe Blow. Unless you show up in court with another.........more qualified.........mechanic to refute his statement, you've got absolutely no case.

Who's the judge going to believe.........Joe Blow who can't fix his car.......or a professional mechanic?

............no implication to you Nick........
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:16 PM
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Good Mechanic near Ocean Co

Try calling my indy, Nick, at German Automotive He is in Shrewsbury in Monmouth, but if you can get the car there it is worth it.

the phone number is 732 544-0441

The address is
872 Shrewsbury Avenue, Eatontown, NJ 07724

Give him a call and see what he thinks the issue is...

Tell him Joe newmark sent ya...
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Brian isn't lying. The Delivery Valve on this pump is a sensitive device. I had an 'Imports Specialist' work on my first Mercedes Diesel and the car came back having a dead cylinder. He refused to fix it. I took him to court (small claims) and lost. Much time was wasted (and money). He claimed the IP happened to go bad during the time he had the car to replace the O-ring. His lawyer pushed that this was a 20 something year old car and things wear out over time and won!

Anyways, all that to say... not all mechanics care enough to research techniques of repair. I wouldn't have known about the 3 tourque steps if I hadn't looked in the FSM after he ruined the IP. Oh well. Hindsight is very clear.
At least he had to show up to court and pay his lawyer. He lost money by being in court and not being on the job.
The guy I used to work for had some sort of insurance that took care of the occasional warrenty. If you ever go to court in a similar situation be sure to ask if they have warrenty insurance. If the Judge knows he/they have warrenty insurance and did not warrent their work it could be a (+) for you when it comes time to make a decision.
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:37 PM
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It's really a disturbing issue. The mechanic screws up the vehicle and won't properly fix his mistake.

You take him to court and attempt to prove that he's the one at fault.

But........he's the mechanic...........and you are Joe Blow. Unless you show up in court with another.........more qualified.........mechanic to refute his statement, you've got absolutely no case.

Who's the judge going to believe.........Joe Blow who can't fix his car.......or a professional mechanic?

............no implication to you Nick........
Yep Brian,
This is the reason I decided that no matter how much money I make, I will not bring my car to a shop if I can fix it myself. Diesels (at least my Diesels) are really not that hard to repair.

So since that day, my hands have been dirtier and I smell like diesel more often. But I feel good when the day's done and my vehicles are still in one piece.

And when I don't read the manual and screw something up... who do I take to court then. At least it's myself I have to call the retard at that point

I feel the same about flying... It's more dangerous for me to drive cross country than to fly. I do fly of course, but I prefer driving because I'd rather die of a car accident that's my stinking fault than be in a 777 heading for the ground where it's someone else's mistake that I can't do a thing about. Maybe I should become a pilot.

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