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bigmaq 12-15-2007 05:33 PM

"Diesel-Only" Label on Gas Cap?
 
Greetings - Has anybody ever created a "Diesel-Only" label or sign that attaches to either the gas cap or the area around the filler opening? Here in NJ they still fill the tank for you.

Thanks,
- bigmaq

Skid Row Joe 12-15-2007 05:40 PM

My E300TD is labeled DIESEL on the inside of the fuel door. --Not real evident to an Oregon or NJ gas-jockey.

My Ford PowerStroke diesel is labeled DIESEL FUEL ONLY, on the outside of the fuel door.

ForcedInduction 12-15-2007 05:41 PM

Diesel owners do not have to let them fill your tank. That only applies to gasoline cars.

bustedbenz 12-15-2007 05:54 PM

Mine has a factory diesel label in the tank filler area.

TheDon 12-15-2007 05:57 PM

you think the loud engine, the smell, and the smoke would give a person a clue

bigmaq 12-15-2007 06:03 PM

Of course, we would never make that mistake. It's just when my wife takes the car and tries to fill up the "gas" tank.

toomany MBZ 12-15-2007 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bustedbenz (Post 1704976)
Mine has a factory diesel label in the tank filler area.

All the five I've owned, same thing.

lietuviai 12-15-2007 06:30 PM

I've always told the gas gimps fill it up with DIESEL.

truckinik 12-15-2007 06:34 PM

All of mine have some sort of label or another. In fact, my Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser station wagon, even has it in the dash gauge cluster, underneath the fuel gauge. It says, "Diesel Fuel Only" and it says the same thing in the filler area behind the fuel door.

When I was like 17 or something, I worked at U-Haul. We used to constantly get customer service phone calls from U-Haul Road-Side, and such, about customers having put gas in the Diesel trucks. They'd be lucky to get out of the gas station parking lot. The they would call us yelling and screaming as if it were our fault or something. U-Haul trucks all have it written everywhere you look on them. Filler area, visor, operators manual, dash board, and even in some other odd U-Haul installed places. People still did it all the time though.

I don't know what kind of damage it does internally but the trucks were very often gone for repairs for long periods of time. I think because they'd fix them and just get them on the road. Some never returned to our location at all.

Trucky

Palangi 12-15-2007 06:52 PM

A "Diesel Fuel Only" sticker will not stop an illiterate New Joisey pump jockey from putting gasoline in it. I know this from firsthand experience.

Hatterasguy 12-15-2007 06:53 PM

So you are assuming the guys in NJ who pump fuel can read? Thats a pretty big assumption.


Its NJ this is how you do it:

1. Open window
2. Hey ()*^*()^*))* its diesel, fill it with that you ^&(*^()&)&*.

Thats how the natives do it.:D

oldnavy 12-15-2007 07:35 PM

My 05 has a red ring that says diesel only that snaps on the lip of the filler tube. Since it also fits my wife's '91 I may order one for her car just in case. I have looked on the Star EPCnet and can't find the thing, I need to look at it again to see if it has a part # on the ring.

Flounder 12-15-2007 09:06 PM

Can I really pump my own diesel in NJ?
 
Getting back to Forced's comment, can I really pump my own Diesel here? None of the nozzle-monkeys manning the stations have ever told me that. They still come over and pump it for you same as with the gas customers.

I think I'll just start pumping it myself and see if anybody yells at me.

Bert

85 DSEL 12-15-2007 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmaq (Post 1704985)
It's just when my wife takes the car and tries to fill up the "gas" tank.

HAH! I never have to worry about that - my wife HATES to drive my car! That's alright with me though...:D :) :D

RUN-EM 12-15-2007 09:47 PM

Don't know how to stop all the "gas" pump
 
jockies from filling it one time with gasoline, but I sure do know how to stop them from doing it a second time....:rifle:

Regards

Run-Em

bustedbenz 12-15-2007 09:56 PM

What's the logic for not letting you get your own if you want to? I don't get that.

drskipper 12-15-2007 09:57 PM

Lol the P.O from my car put a label in the inside right under the gas cap, it says "Rocket Fuel Only"

bustedbenz 12-15-2007 09:59 PM

Just leave it running when you pull up to the pump. That should give them a clue... I'd do that anyway if it was me.

charmalu 12-15-2007 10:03 PM

Oregon is like N.J. couldn`t believe someone was going to pump my fuel.

But I usually leap out and talk to the dude, hey! How ya doin? Here let
me help you. I haven`t had a real problem the few times I have been
there.
I have a tank in the trunk that holds another 12 gal. and I don`t need
some pump jocky sloping diesel all over the inside of my trunk. so far so
good.

The old days when they pumped fuel, we use to get S&H Green stamps,
or Blue Chip stamps with a fill up, also those green bumpy glasses, or
some other come on to buy their fuel.

Also maybe 5 kids in white uniforms with white hats, they would pump
gas, wash your windows, check oil & water. I forget the station, but
it was their minute man service. might have been Union 76.
And gas was around 30 cents.

Charlie

PS. the logic of not pumping your own fuel acording to my daughter is
that it creates jobs.

Craig 12-15-2007 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charmalu (Post 1705194)
PS. the logic of not pumping your own fuel acording to my daughter is that it creates jobs.

The reasons given are the jobs, environmental (spills), and safety. I also suspect jobs are the major reason.

Corey 12-15-2007 11:24 PM

If you want to buy a replacement "DIESEL" decal, it is MB part no. 2105849217. It should be available from the dealer.

ForcedInduction 12-16-2007 05:27 AM

It adds needless/pointless jobs that only hold people back from achieving worthwhile goals. Instead of finding a job that builds useful skills or has advancement potential, they get a dead end low paying job that does not require any kind of prowess to perform. Any good parent should never let their kid(s) get that kind of job, even as their first job.

48 states prove every day that pumping your own gas is safe for the average person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrol_stations#Full_service_vs._self_service
Quote:

In both New Jersey and Oregon, it is legal for customers to pump their own diesel (although not every station permits diesel customers to do so; truck stops typically do). The intent of the Oregon Law is that diesel is not as flammable, and therefore poses less of a hazard to Oregon citizens.

oldnavy 12-16-2007 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1705367)
It adds needless/pointless jobs that only hold people back from achieving worthwhile goals. Instead of finding a job that builds useful skills or has advancement potential, they get a dead end low paying job that does not require any kind of prowess to perform. Any good parent should never let their kid(s) get that kind of job, even as their first job.

48 states prove every day that pumping your own gas is safe for the average person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrol_stations#Full_service_vs._self_service

I live in a small town with a Community College and you would be supprised how many students are working in self service gas stations. every winter here we have fires started at the pump by idiots that get out and start pump and jump back into the car, then get out and have a static electric charge set them and their car on fire. We had two fires last summer and one was from a smoker who lit up while standing there pumping gas.

ForcedInduction 12-16-2007 08:46 AM

Two out of hundreds of thousands are pretty safe odds.

Quote:

I live in a small town with a Community College and you would be surprised how many students are working in self service gas stations.
That still does not mean it is a useful or productive job.

retx 12-16-2007 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1705367)
It adds needless/pointless jobs that only hold people back from achieving worthwhile goals. Instead of finding a job that builds useful skills or has advancement potential, they get a dead end low paying job that does not require any kind of prowess to perform. Any good parent should never let their kid(s) get that kind of job, even as their first job.

Thats pretty f*&king harsh there. My uncles first job ever was pumping gas at Esso on Franklin St in Gastonia NC. He worked there all through high school. He never went to college, instead he opened up his own wrecker service with an old truck he bought and rebuilt. Then he expanded to a 2, then a 4, then a 6 bay garage/wrecker service. He started building race cars when Shadyside Racetrack was THE event in the entire lower central area. He lived a pretty full, enriched exciting life. What some would call the so called American Dream. He was poor as hell growing up, but made a life for himself that even my dad was jealous of at times. Never went to college, never had "productive" job. Unless you just have a bad experience, i think thats a piss poor thing to say.

oldnavy 12-16-2007 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retx (Post 1705485)
Thats pretty f*&king harsh there. My uncles first job ever was pumping gas at Esso on Franklin St in Gastonia NC. He worked there all through high school. He never went to college, instead he opened up his own wrecker service with an old truck he bought and rebuilt. Then he expanded to a 2, then a 4, then a 6 bay garage/wrecker service. He started building race cars when Shadyside Racetrack was THE event in the entire lower central area. He lived a pretty full, enriched exciting life. What some would call the so called American Dream. He was poor as hell growing up, but made a life for himself that even my dad was jealous of at times. Never went to college, never had "productive" job. Unless you just have a bad experience, i think that's a piss poor thing to say.

My sentiments exactly. Well said shipmate.

My first "dead end job" was mowing yards. I know several people who have made a small fortune in yard service. I remember being told a military career was for losers who could not make it in civilian life and I would never make anything of myself. Well 44 years later, I have no money worries, to degree's. drive nice car(s) and have a nice home and a lot better off then at least 90% of my 1963 HS class.

Hatterasguy 12-16-2007 11:08 AM

Dead end jobs put fuel in my tank so I can get to school.


When your in school having a few bucks in your pocket is all that matters from a job.

Craig 12-16-2007 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1705513)
Dead end jobs put fuel in my tank so I can get to school.

When your in school having a few bucks in your pocket is all that matters from a job.

I have no problem with these crappy jobs (I had a few too), as long as people don't get stuck in them. In my case, having these jobs made me take college more seriously, because I learned just how much the alternative would suck. Something my kids don't fully understand yet (but they will).

However, I do not think it is appropriate for states to pass laws just to create these types of jobs, there are usually too many around to be filled by the available workforce anyway. The local fast food places cannot hire people fast enough, we don't need more make-work jobs.

Skid Row Joe 12-16-2007 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retx (Post 1705485)
Thats pretty f*&king harsh there. My uncles first job ever was pumping gas at Esso on Franklin St in Gastonia NC. He worked there all through high school. He never went to college, instead he opened up his own wrecker service with an old truck he bought and rebuilt. Then he expanded to a 2, then a 4, then a 6 bay garage/wrecker service. He started building race cars when Shadyside Racetrack was THE event in the entire lower central area. He lived a pretty full, enriched exciting life. What some would call the so called American Dream. He was poor as hell growing up, but made a life for himself that even my dad was jealous of at times. Never went to college, never had "productive" job. Unless you just have a bad experience, i think thats a piss poor thing to say.

Other than your lewd use of language, I agree completely.

Anyone that stays in any job, while thinking they are "being held back," said respectfully of their mental condition, is an absolute idiot.

ForcedInduction 12-16-2007 06:07 PM

All you have to do is be willing to look and sell yourself and you can find a job that will help improve yourself. Don't "settle" for a job.

When I decided that I wanted to work with cars/trucks, right away I applied for and got a job at Wal-Mart's Tire Lube Express. It was only $7.75/hr but I learned far more at that job in a year that advanced the skills of my chosen trade than I could have pumping gas or selling people fast food in a lifetime.

Even at my current employment with Swift Transportation as a professional technician I am still learning new skills and improving myself every day in any way I can.

I'm sorry if you don't like my frank to-the-point way of speaking.

lietuviai 12-16-2007 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1705367)
It adds needless/pointless jobs that only hold people back from achieving worthwhile goals. Instead of finding a job that builds useful skills or has advancement potential, they get a dead end low paying job that does not require any kind of prowess to perform. Any good parent should never let their kid(s) get that kind of job, even as their first job.

48 states prove every day that pumping your own gas is safe for the average person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrol_stations#Full_service_vs._self_service

I've pumped my own gasoline at Oregon card lock stations. I guess the law doesn't apply to those type of stations.

MBeige 12-16-2007 06:33 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Like this? This was given to me by a friend. Feel free to use this as a template.

On the other hand, whoever mentioned that sticker that starts with 210 is right on the money for an OE "DIESEL" sticker - only problem is it's in black and white so it's not easily seen as this red one.

High resolution copy for reference should you want to use it

http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1330691

bigmaq 12-16-2007 06:52 PM

Nice Sticker
 
Hey, that's what I was looking for. What is it made of? How'd you make it? How'd you prep the area to get it really clean and smooth?

Thanks.

daw_two 12-16-2007 07:00 PM

nice and clean area
 
One drop of biodiesel (B100) is way too much to get the area nice and clean. Believe me, I know.

ForcedInduction 12-16-2007 07:01 PM

I doubt a sticker would help much. Jobs like that get people into a kind of zombie routine. They grab the nozzle, open the lid, take off the cap and stick it in the hole without much thought about the process. You could have a pop-up diorama about the history of Diesel every time the fuel door is opened and some would probably not notice.

MBeige 12-16-2007 07:01 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I didn't make it, my friend did. I don't know how he had it done. I just cleaned the surface with paint cleaner to get the spot nice and clean, wiped it dry and attached it.

Feel free to use it as a template to make many more, maybe even a group buy. I never got to talk to my other friend who sold me some stickers so I'll leave it up to anybody who wants to use it for a template to make more copies. The original "DIESEL" sticker is this one, however. This came from a car that "POS" previously owned.

lietuviai 12-16-2007 07:49 PM

Does it matter which way the Mercedes star points on the fuel cap?:confused:;)
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1197849687
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...7&d=1197847895

MBeige 12-16-2007 07:53 PM

I don't think it does ;)

R Leo 12-16-2007 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lietuviai (Post 1705922)

Oh snap!

That sticker didn't prevent me from pouring two quarts of Mazola into my tank today.

2.5Turbo 12-17-2007 01:43 AM

Mine says "DIESEL FUEL ONLY - NO ADDITIVES"

toomany MBZ 12-17-2007 05:26 AM

[quote=lietuviai;1705922]Does it matter which way the Mercedes star points on the fuel cap?:confused:;)

No.


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