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I'd suck the fluid out with a turkey baster and refill the reservoir a few times. I don't know what could be doing that, it must be air though what else could get inside?
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It is a bit orange, eh? Maybe we should have a sample collected for analysis. I know of some good labs.
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I wonder what would happen if you did one of those machine flushes, like the BG flushes? Don't they flush the system under pressure that you might not get otherwise?
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Okay I just drove the car about 0.5 miles to get some oil for the 6.9 and checked the PSF level cold. It's clear! (well...yellowy but the way it should be) I drive the car back and open it up and again. Orange milkshake. The hoses are tight.
The thing that baffles me is why did the plastic container pumped out last night remain milky when the reservoir in the car itself return to clear? |
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I would just pull off the return hose (the one with the phillips screw hose clamp) and dump that gunk into a bucket, and flush out the orange gook with the pulley turning by hand. it takes a bit longer, but you get it all out, and you don't get any air in.
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I would say 55F as it sat overnight. The inside temp in the plastic container in my place is roughly 65F.
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Shaken, not stirred please
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Answer:
Best guess:
#1. Clear P/S fluid contaminated with the wrong type ATF = must be flushed. #2. Air leak in the fluid return circuit = possible bad pump or gearbox seals sucking air... #3. Bad pump = internal cavitation causing foam... Have a great day.
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New observation.
Drove the car 390miles today....had to. I opened the lid up and saw water condensation! There was absolutely no indication of it before but there were water droplets (or something beading and clear) on the lid. That lid shows a decent seal and was dry all the way around....or perhaps it isn't. I encountered some light rain on the way up but even if it did leak how did I get water in the PSP reservoir on a dry day prior to today's driving? And if so why the heck did it clear up this morning? |
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AIR or Possibly water.
Flush it by hooking up hoses, get the frond end off the ground, then with the engine off, go lock to lock continually filling ( a friend would help here), and try again.
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I have seen this before in many hydraulic systems in heavy machinery that I used to work on. When you get water in the fluid and pressurize it, it will make an emmulsion of the water and oil even though they dont mix. What you are seeing is really fine water molecules dispursed between oil molecules causing the milky appearance. 100% positive that you have water in your fluid from some source or another. Best off changing the seal on the lid and making sure the little nut on the top seals decent as well. You will need to flush the system several times with fresh fluid and drain to rid it of all the water. It would be a good time to change the filter too.
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It's got to be water.
But no matter what it is, you'll need to keep draining, purging and replenishing, until it is all out. |
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I can't seem to find a new seal on fastlane for the PSP reservoir lid....
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So, I wouldn't worry too much right now about that seal, it will take a pressure wash or a flood to get enough water up into that reservoir here's Fastlane's response to a search for "P/S Reservoir Gasket" for a 300TD, I believe the same for your model (Fastane disn't recogninze PSP) but better to check using your exact model before ordering one: http://catalog.worldpac.com/mercedesshop/sophio/wizard.jsp?partner=mercedesshop&clientid=catalog.mercedesshop&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&cookieid=26H1EAL2C29817LLUY&year=1984&make=MB&model=300-TDT-001&category=M&part=P%2FS+Reservoir+Gasket
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