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Old 01-01-2008, 12:23 AM
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Get some air-shocks from Sears to jack-up your rear-end, they work great. --I'm serious.
He may be serious, but don't do something that STUPID! He gives a lot of bad advice, I think just to amuse himself, but a new member to the forum might actually take something he says serious. Please heed the real advice from others, and from your searches.



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You may want to run some other inexpensive fluid through it, so you can find the leak. I wouldn't think if it doesn't stay in, it won't damage the system, but I reserve the right to be corrected if I'm wrong.
To troubleshoot, and to flush, you can run some tractor hydraulic fluid in your system for a while. Tractor Supply would have it. Fill your system and check for leaks. Common leaks areas are the high pressure hose that goes to the top of the hydraulic pump {space ship looking round thing on front of cylinder head. Just follow hose}. Also the hydraulic pump itself will leak.
Less likely leakers are the hard lines in back, the rear valve assy or god forbid the struts.
The SLS system is not complicated at all, and can be dealt with cheaply enough if you get the high dollar items used. The accumulators {also called spheres} are the wear item in the system, and provide the shock absorption. {always buy these items new. About $100 bucks apiece, and there are two}
There is nothing better than a properly operating SLS system, and there is much much info here to search for and learn from.
Let us know what happens when you get fluid in the system.
And for god's sake, don't listen to .......... well, you know!

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Old 01-01-2008, 01:28 AM
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saw this once and saved it ,,,,,,,,can get pricey saveing a sls
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saw this once and saved it ,,,,,,,,can get pricey saveing a sls
http://**************.com/node/3061
Sometime when you have a spare day, do a search on here for SLS. You will come across several threads about it. I've read hours worth and still haven't found anyone that has junked the SLS and been happy with the results. The advice on this forum is to fix the SLS. The car just doesn't handle the same way without it.
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:36 AM
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Heck, if a guy that lives in a trailer uses 'em, they gotta be good. Works for me!
Permanent fixes are easier and cheaper, than throwing money at the problem.......endlessly.
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:44 AM
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Heck, if a guy that lives in a trailer uses 'em, they gotta be good. Works for me!
Permanent fixes are easier and cheaper, than throwing money at the problem.......endlessly.
Which car did you remove the SLS from?
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:46 AM
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hey skid, I see your point, but it's not the only one. really, the hydraulic sls system is a wonderfull thing. while it is true that a severely damaged sls is very difficult and expensive to remedy. total removal and installation of air shocks should by no means be the first choice when there is a problem. put some fluid in it and see where it leaks out. odds are pretty good that it will be a simple pressure hose leak up front. if not, it could be a seal kit on the pump or a leaking line underneath somewhere. first thing would be to find out what the problem is. then if it is mega expensive, look for alternatives.
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:52 AM
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saw this once and saved it ,,,,,,,,can get pricey saveing a sls
http://**************.com/node/3061
That hack job kit is $400 bucks!! You can usually fix a system for less than that and have the superb handling and response that those brilliant German guys came up with.
The pricey part would be if you purchased all the parts new, but you don't have to do that. Buy the accumulators new, but if you need any of the other stuff I have seen it here or on ebay for very reasonable prices. Heck, sticker price on a hydraulic pump is about $1200 bucks, but somebody on the forum here sold me one for $50 bucks.
So, all these non-wagon folks need to be responsible when giving advice to others. It is often WRONG!
Just my opinion, and no offense to the above person I quoted. I was speaking more in general terms than about you specifically.

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John above makes a great point. Troubleshoot the problem first. Everybody is very quick to advise on a total replacement. We don't seem to do that on other parts of the car.
And, the SLS isn't that much different than the brake system. Hydraulic pressure and components operated by it.....
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:37 AM
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hey skid, I see your point, but it's not the only one. really, the hydraulic sls system is a wonderfull thing. while it is true that a severely damaged sls is very difficult and expensive to remedy. total removal and installation of air shocks should by no means be the first choice when there is a problem. put some fluid in it and see where it leaks out. odds are pretty good that it will be a simple pressure hose leak up front. if not, it could be a seal kit on the pump or a leaking line underneath somewhere. first thing would be to find out what the problem is. then if it is mega expensive, look for alternatives.
If and when the OP - bears 4X4, returns.........we may then find out what he's found to be the situation with his car. I like to go first class too.
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So which car did you take the SLS off and put air shocks on to?
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:48 AM
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All that crap in his signature area is getting larger by the day. Sad when somebody always has to have their scoreboard showing........
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:41 AM
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I just repaired my SLS and am very happy I did. I think if you've never experienced a working SLS on a wagon, you would probably think that replacing the system with the kit from ************** or something like it would be fine. It will handle like every other wagon out there. BUT...once you experience the SLS you understand the benefits, especially if you transport a lot of weight. I personally prefer floating over the road as opposed to bouncing on it.

I spent just under $600 to recondition my SLS. (plus a bit more to repair the other worn items I came across during the repair)
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[QUOTE=I spent just under $600 to recondition my SLS. (plus a bit more to repair the other worn items I came across during the repair)[/QUOTE]


all needs to be replaced on mine after years of neglect by others, except maybe pump,,, so i was looking at other options ,,, acctuator is so rusted its crumbling
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:38 PM
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all needs to be replaced on mine........
I would seriously doubt that. Those linkages always crumble. They are about $30 bucks if I remember. You will certainly need accumulators. The rest just troubleshoot.
Way too many SLS Chicken Littles.......
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:18 PM
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Here's the list of costs for my repair. I actually spent less than $500

Flare nuts, Unions and bubble flare tool kit: $85.17
25' coil of 6mm line: $36
O-rings for SLS Valve rebuild: $5 (thanks D.S.)
Height Adjustment linkage (old one crumbled when I removed it): $45 (from dealer)
2 accumulators (101.95 each): $203.90
Fresh OE fluid: $28.90
New filter: $9.93
New line from SLS valve to accumulator since I stripped a flare nut: $18
Metric Flare nut wrench set: $30

TOTAL: $461.90 (I don't think this is too bad)

After doing this repair, I would recommend that you drop the subframe if you need to repair the feed and return lines. I didn't drop the subframe and it ended up costing me more aggravation and time than if I did.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:41 PM
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[QUOTE=Chad300tdt;

TOTAL: $461.90 (I don't think this is too bad)

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is my sls valve that is crumbling,,,,,any idea how much a new one is?

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