Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog Tech Info Tech Forums
 
  Search our site:    
 Cart  | Project List | Order Status | Help    


Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes ShopForum > Technical Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-23-2008, 12:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 81
Long Term Effects of Breathing Anti-Freeze

I have a 1983 Mercedes 240D that has developed a slight coolant leak in the heater core. I tried all the radiator "stop leak" products and even black pepper, which I was told by an old school mechanic would "definately" work. I still have the leak and a strong sweet smell of antifreeze whenever the heat is on.

I have been told that replacing the heater core is a MAJOR job. Not sure what to do, but until I decide are their any health consequences to breathing anti-freeze? I have a 1.5 hour commute every morning and by the time I get to work, my eyes really burn.
__________________
1999 E300 Turbo - 112K miles
1987 300D Turbo - 89K miles
1984 190D 5spd - 152K miles
1969 220D Auto - 170K miles
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-23-2008, 12:24 PM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 22,292
according to batman comics, I believe it will cause you to require a containment suit, and a liquid nitrogen system to keep you alive... other than that I have no experience with medical interactions of the vapors.
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-23-2008, 12:24 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 8,074
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gauge View Post
...are their any health consequences to breathing anti-freeze?
Depends on the type of anifreeze that you are exposed to. Maybe you should use the Low Toxicity type!!!

A search for "MSDS" and "antifreeze" will provide additional information.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-23-2008, 12:24 PM
dieseldan44's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Boston
Posts: 1,916
Yes, its bad!

It is a lot of work to replace the heater core, no doubt. A weekend more or less. But, there is a step by step guide posted in this site:

http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123Evaporator

That will get you right down to the heater core, I dont know if there any specifics to replacing it once you have the whole evaporator box out and apart.

dd
__________________
-------------------------------
'85 300D, 'Lance',200k, ... beloved daily driver (50k on Frybrid 3 Valve Kit)
'82 300D, 'Tex', 228k body / 170k engine ... rust-free summer car. Asleep for season.
'84 300D - 170k. Rusted out engine donor for the '82


If you like rock/folk, check out:
http://www.blackmarmotband.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-23-2008, 12:52 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 14,606
You don't say where you live, so I don't know if your daily temperatures would permit it, but it's pretty simply to bypass the heater core.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-23-2008, 07:46 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 14,520
If you drink it, you die a painful death. So, think about it. You could be risking lung cancer....or a variety of other severe medical issues. Or you could pass out and crash. It is TOXIC to breathe! I'd stop driving that car till its fixed ASAP. I think it damages the brain too....
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'82 300SD 322k -mine (OC-323,450) -for sale
'89 420SEL 150k - mine (OC-152,550)
'93 190D 2.2 - 210k - mine (OC-213,000)
'05 C240 4matic Wagon - 135k - wifes (OC-139,500)
'82 300SD 342k -dad's (OC-346,300)
'87 420SEL - 311k - dad's - (OC-314,550) -for sale
'01 E320 - 129k - dad's (OC-133,700)
'02 E320 - 153k - brother's (OC - 157,730)
'12 VW Jetta - 13k - Sisters
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-23-2008, 08:01 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 8,074
Quote:
Originally Posted by pawoSD View Post
You could be risking lung cancer....or a variety of other severe medical issues. Or you could pass out and crash. It is TOXIC to breathe!
I reviewed the material safety data sheets for a number of antifreeze types. None were identified as carcinogens. None were toxic when inhaled; lung irritation was the most significant side effect listed from inhalation. For some types, there were no negative side effects from inhalation.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-23-2008, 08:28 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 14,520
Hmm....interesting. I had always been told that it was quite dangerous to breathe in the vapor form. I believe it even says it on the bottle.

I know animals (and people) will die if they drink some (or even some diluted in water)....so it can't exactly be "Safe" by any means.
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'82 300SD 322k -mine (OC-323,450) -for sale
'89 420SEL 150k - mine (OC-152,550)
'93 190D 2.2 - 210k - mine (OC-213,000)
'05 C240 4matic Wagon - 135k - wifes (OC-139,500)
'82 300SD 342k -dad's (OC-346,300)
'87 420SEL - 311k - dad's - (OC-314,550) -for sale
'01 E320 - 129k - dad's (OC-133,700)
'02 E320 - 153k - brother's (OC - 157,730)
'12 VW Jetta - 13k - Sisters
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-23-2008, 08:45 PM
superbeast1098's Avatar
WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!!!!!!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Posts: 210
Some good info from whunter here in these posts

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/139585-antifreeze-ethylene-glycol-intoxication-toxicity-metabolic-acidosis.html#post1037466
__________________
1983 Mercedes 300D
Atlanta, GA
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-23-2008, 08:48 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 14,520
Thats where I remembered it from...awesome.

Moral of the story: its a poison, don't inhale or drink it
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'82 300SD 322k -mine (OC-323,450) -for sale
'89 420SEL 150k - mine (OC-152,550)
'93 190D 2.2 - 210k - mine (OC-213,000)
'05 C240 4matic Wagon - 135k - wifes (OC-139,500)
'82 300SD 342k -dad's (OC-346,300)
'87 420SEL - 311k - dad's - (OC-314,550) -for sale
'01 E320 - 129k - dad's (OC-133,700)
'02 E320 - 153k - brother's (OC - 157,730)
'12 VW Jetta - 13k - Sisters
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-23-2008, 10:36 PM
bgkast's Avatar
Rollin' on 16s
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Vancouver WA
Posts: 6,528
Buy a ford F250. I just did the heater core in mine...$23 and 30 min start to finish.
__________________
1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-23-2008, 11:25 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 5,440
DEATH. BUt that's the long term effect of breathing at all.

P E H
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-23-2008, 11:32 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 5,440
Gauge,

Loosen the radiator cap so there is no pressure in your cooling system. That will make it leak much less or not at all.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-24-2008, 12:14 AM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 14,520
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgkast View Post
Buy a ford F250. I just did the heater core in mine...$23 and 30 min start to finish.
At the international auto show in detroit this past weekend I got to see the most amazing cut-away of a vehicle I have ever seen, it was of the new F150....pretty impressive vehicle. Anyways, the heater core is VERY easy to get to! Its right behind the kick panel on the passenger side inside the "blower housing" area. From the looks of it you could probably replace it on the new F150 in about 20-30 mins as well. Too bad ours is not that easy to get to....oh well. So far none of ours have leaked.....and we do have an extra good core in our parts inventory.
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'82 300SD 322k -mine (OC-323,450) -for sale
'89 420SEL 150k - mine (OC-152,550)
'93 190D 2.2 - 210k - mine (OC-213,000)
'05 C240 4matic Wagon - 135k - wifes (OC-139,500)
'82 300SD 342k -dad's (OC-346,300)
'87 420SEL - 311k - dad's - (OC-314,550) -for sale
'01 E320 - 129k - dad's (OC-133,700)
'02 E320 - 153k - brother's (OC - 157,730)
'12 VW Jetta - 13k - Sisters
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-24-2008, 12:21 AM
lietuviai's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SW WA
Posts: 5,737
Every Ford I ever owned ended up with a leaky heater core. Most were cheap but difficult to replace. Maybe it's the other way around now.
__________________
DJ


84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2011 Pelican Parts - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page